15 year old falls to death first day on job

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McAvoy wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2024 4:55 am Back in my day, I was a paperboy in the morning and a bag boy at night at age 15. Paperboy even less than that. Wonder how being a paperboy got past those laws.
True, but nobody cares as much about riding a bike on the street before 95% of the traffic wakes up.

That at least makes more sense back in the day when they made the exception for paperboy jobs.
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BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Mon Mar 04, 2024 6:21 pm
McAvoy wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2024 4:55 am Back in my day, I was a paperboy in the morning and a bag boy at night at age 15. Paperboy even less than that. Wonder how being a paperboy got past those laws.
True, but nobody cares as much about riding a bike on the street before 95% of the traffic wakes up.

That at least makes more sense back in the day when they made the exception for paperboy jobs.
Probably. Though I was still doing this in the rain, snow and ice at the crackass of dawn. Dont get me wrong, it was actually good money for a kid.

I just could never sleep in on snow days or school days off.
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McAvoy wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2024 2:44 am
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Mon Mar 04, 2024 6:21 pm
McAvoy wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2024 4:55 am Back in my day, I was a paperboy in the morning and a bag boy at night at age 15. Paperboy even less than that. Wonder how being a paperboy got past those laws.
True, but nobody cares as much about riding a bike on the street before 95% of the traffic wakes up.

That at least makes more sense back in the day when they made the exception for paperboy jobs.
Probably. Though I was still doing this in the rain, snow and ice at the crackass of dawn. Dont get me wrong, it was actually good money for a kid.

I just could never sleep in on snow days or school days off.
Everybody knows about the age of paperboy profession. There's a classic video game based on it.

Child labor laws have more to do with industrial labor standards... factoring the economics of labor and capital as a mathematical balance and what not. Hiring one kid per well defined area of a neighborhood is very straight forward and easy to give provision for in cases such as bad weather if it's deemed unsafe.
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BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Mon Mar 04, 2024 6:19 pm
Deledrius wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2024 7:11 am
McAvoy wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2024 4:55 am Back in my day, I was a paperboy in the morning and a bag boy at night at age 15. Paperboy even less than that. Wonder how being a paperboy got past those laws.
Tradition seems like a safe bet.
Okay, Jordan Peterson.
I'm sorry?

Peterson is more likely to use tradition to defend this sort of thing than label it as the way people excused it, as I was doing. I'm fairly certain he and I hold very opposing views on this (and most things, hopefully).
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Madner Kami wrote: Sun Mar 03, 2024 6:34 pm Is it wierd when I think, that there's nothing wrong with children working inherently* and that the actual problem is, when kids have to work for a living or to support their families?

*That is, of course, if the person in question recieves full worker's rights and equal pay, so it isn't just another round of "let's see how we can undermine established wage-structures and labour-rights even harder".
I agree, I don't see the problem either.

1) You really, really do appreciate something you've bought more than something bought for you.

2) 80% of your life is work. Getting some early experience can only benefit you. And yes, I absolutely do agree with you: equal pay and equal rights for these kids.
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This isn't really the best example of why child labor laws are in place. This is more a case that could happen to anyone and is at most semi compelling as to why standards are in place.

There's no problem with an adolescent gaining work experience and that's not why the standards are in place. It is however problematic when industrial standards aren't curbed by age.
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