The USA isn't "Polarized"

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Re: The USA isn't "Polarized"

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They aren't completly opposed, the Democrats and Republicans as much as they hate each other will come together whenever an actual non Capitalist threat is posed.
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hammerofglass wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 1:17 pm
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 12:11 pm I don't get why polarization is being conflated with a righteous judgement between each side. The US very much is polarized, mainly consistent with what clearspira first said.
I believe it's because that's what the article did.
Fair enough lol but still.
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Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 7:46 pm One part has tried to compromise. One part thinks compromise makes your dick ensmallen. One part has tried to be bipartisan. One part has thrown a tantrum and tanked bipartisan legislation that they started because it's bipartisan.

Do I have to pull out the Dril tweet? All the "polarization" here is on one side.
And which do you think that you are? Because the idea of compromise seems utterly alien to you. Anyone who you don't 100% agree with is the spawn of Satan in your eyes. There's no compromise there, only prejudiced intolerance. Even if that's against a group that has its own large dose of prejudiced intolerance it doesn't make you any less open-minded.
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I'm willing to compromise with people who treat the LGBTQ population with human decency. I'm willing to compromise with people who oppose genocide. I'm willing to compromise with people who don't treat my humanity as a subject that's up for debate. I'm willing to compromise about where highway funding goes, about minimum wage, about the best foreign policy approach. I'm even willing to agree with Clearspira sometimes.

I'm friends with Liberals, Communists, Anarchists, and Socialists. It's not my fault that the entire Republican party has taken umbrage at my very existence.

More importantly though, whether I, personally, am willing to compromise, the entire democratic party IS willing to compromise, and has done so repeatedly.
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Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2024 9:57 pm I'm willing to compromise with people who treat the LGBTQ population with human decency. I'm willing to compromise with people who oppose genocide. I'm willing to compromise with people who don't treat my humanity as a subject that's up for debate. I'm willing to compromise about where highway funding goes, about minimum wage, about the best foreign policy approach. I'm even willing to agree with Clearspira sometimes.

I'm friends with Liberals, Communists, Anarchists, and Socialists. It's not my fault that the entire Republican party has taken umbrage at my very existence.

More importantly though, whether I, personally, am willing to compromise, the entire democratic party IS willing to compromise, and has done so repeatedly.
This is my view. I'm willing to hear others' ideas and views... I just cut the discussion short when it turns into a xenophobic tirade about [insert marginalized minority group here] being the TRUE cause of everything wrong with the world, today. You can't really find a middle ground when their ultimate goal is making most of the population (including myself) cease to exist.
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I generally sit on the fence when listening to both sides and try to be in 'their' shoes when they talk about political points.

Take for example. Abortion. I can definitely see the argument on the Pro-Life side at its basic. Take away the religious aspect out of it and a human fetus is still a human. Woild be a baby eventually. When life begins, when a zygote becomes a human, etc is semantics IMO. I get it. I also get that women should have a right over what they want to do with their body. That includes if she wants to carry a fetus to term or not.

Everything else is just clutter on the Pro-Life side where politics gets more polarized through misinformation, politics, memes etc.
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Most pro-lifers are also anti-contraception. If they really cared about fetuses, they would do everything in their power to make contraception free and easy to access.
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Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Mon Apr 01, 2024 11:33 pm Most pro-lifers are also anti-contraception. If they really cared about fetuses, they would do everything in their power to make contraception free and easy to access.
I think most of them fall under the religious part I was talking about to ignore in my argument or example if you will. If you just make it as basic as possible, it would be something I can easily see the arguments.

Don't get me wrong, I am Pro Choice. Until we can create reliable and safe artificial wombs that won't cost more than a house to use, women will have to carry these fetuses to term and they should absolutely have the choice if they want to or not.
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Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Mon Apr 01, 2024 11:33 pm Most pro-lifers are also anti-contraception. If they really cared about fetuses, they would do everything in their power to make contraception free and easy to access.
Okay this point is an example of people accusing "most" with "loudest", the people who have decided to dedicate their entire lives to the issue may be Evangelicals and Catholics who also don't like Birth Control, but the average person who'd say they're Pro-Life if you ask them is not.
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Do you have a source for that?
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