Throw out your onions

[Riedquat]

Try means try. If you won't bother with effort at all then no, it is an attitude problem. Now I can put down a Sean Connory quote on trying your best. But we should stay grounded in reality a moment. I have been a manager. Try your best has kept. coming. back. as an excuse to be lazy. And I do mean excuse. If there is a sorter/shredder type machine dealing in food and it is supposed to be opened once a day or once a shift and all the detritus hosed out. Tried your best turns into opening the side is too much a PIA so someone squirts water in from the top. That's the same thing, right?

You've been a manager? Damned glad you weren't my manager, he's decent enough to not ask me to try the impossible (and manages people who'll call him out for doing so if he tried to - it would be a quick way to loose all credibility).

If someone's using try their best as an excuse to be lazy then they've not tried their best. Don't twist language like that.

And I know the whole 100% thing is a waste because no one can grasp what they are demanding. A friend of mine works for an MUA. (Please don't ask me what the words are, I never remember. But they handle both clean water and waste water treatment. As well as fire hydrants. The point is they test for lead in water at one part per billion. Inevitably someone asks shouldn't it be zero? Well how high do you want to take the divisor? Sorry there was an old math concept that said in theory you can't get through a door. Because the distance keeps dividing in half to infinity or something. That is the issue on the water.

So you should be able to see the problem then. No matter how hard you try people will keep demanding more, even when you've gone way past what's a perfectly acceptable level. The more intelligent staff will have walked out ages ago, leaving just the less effective who can't see the whole problem with the "aim for zero, lead in water's bad!"

The situation isn't of course exactly comparable with distance since the amount of effort required to half the level of lead in the water increases exponentially every time you halve it, unlike covering a distance.

[Nealithi]

Try means try. If you won't bother with effort at all then no, it is an attitude problem. Now I can put down a Sean Connory quote on trying your best. But we should stay grounded in reality a moment. I have been a manager. Try your best has kept. coming. back. as an excuse to be lazy. And I do mean excuse. If there is a sorter/shredder type machine dealing in food and it is supposed to be opened once a day or once a shift and all the detritus hosed out. Tried your best turns into opening the side is too much a PIA so someone squirts water in from the top. That's the same thing, right?

You've been a manager? Damned glad you weren't my manager, he's decent enough to not ask me to try the impossible (and manages people who'll call him out for doing so if he tried to - it would be a quick way to loose all credibility).

If someone's using try their best as an excuse to be lazy then they've not tried their best. Don't twist language like that.

And I know the whole 100% thing is a waste because no one can grasp what they are demanding. A friend of mine works for an MUA. (Please don't ask me what the words are, I never remember. But they handle both clean water and waste water treatment. As well as fire hydrants. The point is they test for lead in water at one part per billion. Inevitably someone asks shouldn't it be zero? Well how high do you want to take the divisor? Sorry there was an old math concept that said in theory you can't get through a door. Because the distance keeps dividing in half to infinity or something. That is the issue on the water.

So you should be able to see the problem then. No matter how hard you try people will keep demanding more, even when you've gone way past what's a perfectly acceptable level. The more intelligent staff will have walked out ages ago, leaving just the less effective who can't see the whole problem with the "aim for zero, lead in water's bad!"

The situation isn't of course exactly comparable with distance since the amount of effort required to half the level of lead in the water increases exponentially every time you halve it, unlike covering a distance.

Yes I have been a manager. I have had to stand between my guys and people from other departments and shout with them and once with the owner of the company that they do not berate my people. They bring it to me and I handle it. I have only had to have that conversation three times. Head of service, the boss's son, and the owner of the company.

I have had to handle attitude problems of, your task is to take this machine apart and separate out the usable parts for resale. And had a thirty year old pick the machine up and slam it onto the floor. "It's apart." He was considered the cream of the new hires. And yes we had 100% expectations in some areas. But it had a caveat. All orders generated that day, that we had the materials for, shipped that same day. We hit that goal for all seventeen years I worked there. Cleanliness of materials going out. I aimed for 100% on all parts I cleaned and did not get complaints. Yes I did the work too. As a manager I was responsible to train all my people and be able to answer any question. As well as step in should they not be able to work. I loved my guys and I appreciate how the reciprocated. Sorry, some good memories and I am a little bitter. Owner was pushing 76 and wanted to retire. His son's did not want to take over the business. So it was sold to an out of state business who gutted the warehouse and closed us.

Anyway, on topic. I have been saying 100% clean is not possible. But people have to be told to aim for impossible numbers or they don't even go for acceptable ones. You noted you could see it. But you would quit on anyone that did that to you.

At this point I think we are way off the base of there is an onion recall.
Thank you Fuzzy for posting this. The moment I read it I checked the kitchen. Fortunately we did not have any and will likely get frozen for a while if at all.

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

Does anyone else have updates? I did a quick search but couldn't find anything conclusive on if it's safe to buy onions yet.