The Harris campaign

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Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2024 6:32 pm
Remember to check your registration, everyone. If the Republicans can't win fair and square, they will cheat.
Everyone? That would be cheating. I'm not American.
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They likely will find a way to use you to cheat for the republicans anyways.
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Nobody700 wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2024 2:32 am I think the mainstream media really wants Trump to win, but after Harris came out, Trump and Vance LOST IT and the mainstream media can't spin it... so they ignore it.

Remember, they ignored 'Vote once and you'll never vote again'.
I don't know about that. It's pretty damned obvious that Trump wants a state run media and wants to chuck any left leaning media (Fake News) to wayside.

MSM was certainly factchecking and talking about any time Trump said something weird or off. But it does seem like they are not giving that much of an effort to doing that now. Maybe they don't want to waste air time talking about what new crap Trump has said but focusing on Harris.

From one point of view, Harris is the new shiny thing and Trump is the old and dull thing. Or that Harris is brining in new energy, saying and doing new things whereas Trump is just being Trump.

Could also be just since we all know Trump has an ego the size of Jupiter, that not giving him the air time anymore is a calculated move to piss off Trump.
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McAvoy wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2024 2:03 pm
Nobody700 wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2024 2:32 am I think the mainstream media really wants Trump to win, but after Harris came out, Trump and Vance LOST IT and the mainstream media can't spin it... so they ignore it.

Remember, they ignored 'Vote once and you'll never vote again'.
I don't know about that. It's pretty damned obvious that Trump wants a state run media and wants to chuck any left leaning media (Fake News) to wayside.

MSM was certainly factchecking and talking about any time Trump said something weird or off. But it does seem like they are not giving that much of an effort to doing that now. Maybe they don't want to waste air time talking about what new crap Trump has said but focusing on Harris.

From one point of view, Harris is the new shiny thing and Trump is the old and dull thing. Or that Harris is brining in new energy, saying and doing new things whereas Trump is just being Trump.

Could also be just since we all know Trump has an ego the size of Jupiter, that not giving him the air time anymore is a calculated move to piss off Trump.
I meant back when Biden was running. Everyone brought up his age (Fair) and his speech problems (Fair but as someone who also fails at speech I sympathize) but they almost never brought up policy... because they were too busy projecting Trump as 'strong'. When dude looks like mashed potatoes if left in a hot desert after 27 days.
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So I just heard about this: right before Obama was doing his DNC speech where he made fun of Trump's obsession with crowd sizes to a packed arena, Harris did a speech to the arena where they did the RNC and it was ALSO packed. Just to rub it in.
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Nobody700 wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2024 2:38 pm
McAvoy wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2024 2:03 pm
Nobody700 wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2024 2:32 am I think the mainstream media really wants Trump to win, but after Harris came out, Trump and Vance LOST IT and the mainstream media can't spin it... so they ignore it.

Remember, they ignored 'Vote once and you'll never vote again'.
I don't know about that. It's pretty damned obvious that Trump wants a state run media and wants to chuck any left leaning media (Fake News) to wayside.

MSM was certainly factchecking and talking about any time Trump said something weird or off. But it does seem like they are not giving that much of an effort to doing that now. Maybe they don't want to waste air time talking about what new crap Trump has said but focusing on Harris.

From one point of view, Harris is the new shiny thing and Trump is the old and dull thing. Or that Harris is brining in new energy, saying and doing new things whereas Trump is just being Trump.

Could also be just since we all know Trump has an ego the size of Jupiter, that not giving him the air time anymore is a calculated move to piss off Trump.
I meant back when Biden was running. Everyone brought up his age (Fair) and his speech problems (Fair but as someone who also fails at speech I sympathize) but they almost never brought up policy... because they were too busy projecting Trump as 'strong'. When dude looks like mashed potatoes if left in a hot desert after 27 days.
Are you talking MSM as in Fox News? They totally ignored Trump's own issues and went full attack on Biden and not policy. If it was based on policy it was on vague or very hyperbolic talking points. Or Hunter's investigation or MTG's umpteenth time trying to impeach Biden.

Yeah there was alot of puff pieces on Biden related to his age and health from the Left side of MSM. His speech impediment was largely ignored since it's well known he has always had one. But they went critical of Biden after the first debate especially with the 'discoveries' of Biden's daily schedule.

From what I can see though, Leftist MSM is full on Harris and Walz.
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McAvoy wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2024 2:03 pm
Nobody700 wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2024 2:32 am I think the mainstream media really wants Trump to win, but after Harris came out, Trump and Vance LOST IT and the mainstream media can't spin it... so they ignore it.

Remember, they ignored 'Vote once and you'll never vote again'.
I don't know about that. It's pretty damned obvious that Trump wants a state run media and wants to chuck any left leaning media (Fake News) to wayside.

MSM was certainly factchecking and talking about any time Trump said something weird or off. But it does seem like they are not giving that much of an effort to doing that now. Maybe they don't want to waste air time talking about what new crap Trump has said but focusing on Harris.

From one point of view, Harris is the new shiny thing and Trump is the old and dull thing. Or that Harris is brining in new energy, saying and doing new things whereas Trump is just being Trump.

Could also be just since we all know Trump has an ego the size of Jupiter, that not giving him the air time anymore is a calculated move to piss off Trump.
CNN was bought by a Trump toady and they tried to appeal to his base...and it was an utter failure.

Their attempts to spin everything for Trump have also been fascinating.

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The New York Times has been just as blatant about spinning everything for Trump, it's surreal. Like they did that jobs headline unironically.

We don't have a right any left media anymore, we have a right media that still makes the effort of covering actual things that happened on Earth and then we have Fox and Newsmax who just make shit up and lie outright.
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Everyone who is voting for Harris this year already knows what Trump is about. What is happening though is the key difference between what Harris and Walz is doing/saving versus what Trump and Vance is saying/doing. It's like night and day. Trump is looking every bit his age, sounding like his age or worse. His camp no longer spin this as well as least Trump sounds better than Biden now. They don't have that excuse. Doesn't help that Trump continues to say some of the most random things. Doesn't help that the far right and media attacked Walz's son before they knew he was a special needs kid, like him being a regular kid would have been OK.
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Remember every fricking week we got an "Is Trump finally being presidential?" bit? The mainstream media has bent over backwards to make 45 look like something other than a babbling clown and continues to do so.
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