Gunman at large after UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot in ‘brazen targeted attack,’ police say

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

I think there's a pretty good chance Luigi is not the guy who did it, given the NYPD's history of planting evidence and generalized corruption:
https://www.thecity.nyc/2022/12/13/edny ... legations/
https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-loca ... k-city-cop
https://www.npr.org/2011/10/14/14136285 ... -on-people

[hammerofglass]

It's not just that they have a history of doing that, it's that his actions after arrest make no sense if the cops' story is true. You're telling me a guy who did a politically motivated murder in broad daylight and had a (so generic it stands out how generic it is) manifesto all ready to go made absolutely zero use of his once in a lifetime spotlight and sudden folk hero status to preach the (whatever the hell his politics are, again it's weirdly nonspecific) gospel? This is a best case scenario for the idealogue and terrorist they're claiming he is, or hell even if he was innocent and supported the shooting like half the country does he could be taking the opportunity to hijack it and insert his own message.

Instead of any of that what he's doing is insisting on his innocence and protesting the obvious railroading, kangaroo court, and trial by media he's being subjected to.

[clearspira]

It's not just that they have a history of doing that, it's that his actions after arrest make no sense if the cops' story is true. You're telling me a guy who did a politically motivated murder in broad daylight and had a (so generic it stands out how generic it is) manifesto all ready to go made absolutely zero use of his once in a lifetime spotlight and sudden folk hero status to preach the (whatever the hell his politics are, again it's weirdly nonspecific) gospel? This is a best case scenario for the idealogue and terrorist they're claiming he is, or hell even if he was innocent and supported the shooting like half the country does he could be taking the opportunity to hijack it and insert his own message.

Instead of any of that what he's doing is insisting on his innocence and protesting the obvious railroading, kangaroo court, and trial by media he's being subjected to.

This sounds like the sort of scandal that Trump and Musk would feast upon if true. Your whole last paragraph is word-for-word what Trump has been claiming about his many trials for the last four years. And correct me if i'm wrong, were not a significant portion of them at the hands of the NY authorities? Trump will be itching to get himself some tasty revenge - he is just that sort of bloke.

And the kicker here of course is if the NYPD really, actually are guilty of framing an innocent lad, the people would demand that Trump does something about it. It's a win-win scenario for him.

[hammerofglass]

It's not just that they have a history of doing that, it's that his actions after arrest make no sense if the cops' story is true. You're telling me a guy who did a politically motivated murder in broad daylight and had a (so generic it stands out how generic it is) manifesto all ready to go made absolutely zero use of his once in a lifetime spotlight and sudden folk hero status to preach the (whatever the hell his politics are, again it's weirdly nonspecific) gospel? This is a best case scenario for the idealogue and terrorist they're claiming he is, or hell even if he was innocent and supported the shooting like half the country does he could be taking the opportunity to hijack it and insert his own message.

Instead of any of that what he's doing is insisting on his innocence and protesting the obvious railroading, kangaroo court, and trial by media he's being subjected to.

This sounds like the sort of scandal that Trump and Musk would feast upon if true. Your whole last paragraph is word-for-word what Trump has been claiming about his many trials for the last four years. And correct me if i'm wrong, were not a significant portion of them at the hands of the NY authorities? Trump will be itching to get himself some tasty revenge - he is just that sort of bloke.

And the kicker here of course is if the NYPD really, actually are guilty of framing an innocent lad, the people would demand that Trump does something about it. It's a win-win scenario for him.

NYPD (and NY state troopers) being notorious for pinning crimes on some random guy is exactly why that lie works for Trump and is believable to people who don't look into it all and missed his wrestling heel bit where he boastfully admitted to everything while insisting being prosecuted for it was being mean to him. Fuzzy just posted some examples so I won't repeat it.

Plus it's super blatant in this case; they aren't giving him presumption of innocence in the press even though that's constitutionally required, they made a huge public spectacle about his prisoner transfer like he's the Joker, and they assigned a judge with personal and financial ties to the health insurance industry. Even if he's 100% guilty his rights are being blatantly violated to make an example of him.

[clearspira]

It's not just that they have a history of doing that, it's that his actions after arrest make no sense if the cops' story is true. You're telling me a guy who did a politically motivated murder in broad daylight and had a (so generic it stands out how generic it is) manifesto all ready to go made absolutely zero use of his once in a lifetime spotlight and sudden folk hero status to preach the (whatever the hell his politics are, again it's weirdly nonspecific) gospel? This is a best case scenario for the idealogue and terrorist they're claiming he is, or hell even if he was innocent and supported the shooting like half the country does he could be taking the opportunity to hijack it and insert his own message.

Instead of any of that what he's doing is insisting on his innocence and protesting the obvious railroading, kangaroo court, and trial by media he's being subjected to.

This sounds like the sort of scandal that Trump and Musk would feast upon if true. Your whole last paragraph is word-for-word what Trump has been claiming about his many trials for the last four years. And correct me if i'm wrong, were not a significant portion of them at the hands of the NY authorities? Trump will be itching to get himself some tasty revenge - he is just that sort of bloke.

And the kicker here of course is if the NYPD really, actually are guilty of framing an innocent lad, the people would demand that Trump does something about it. It's a win-win scenario for him.

NYPD (and NY state troopers) being notorious for pinning crimes on some random guy is exactly why that lie works for Trump and is believable to people who don't look into it all and missed his wrestling heel bit where he boastfully admitted to everything while insisting being prosecuted for it was being mean to him. Fuzzy just posted some examples so I won't repeat it.

Plus it's super blatant in this case; they aren't giving him presumption of innocence in the press even though that's constitutionally required, they made a huge public spectacle about his prisoner transfer like he's the Joker, and they assigned a judge with personal and financial ties to the health insurance industry. Even if he's 100% guilty his rights are being blatantly violated to make an example of him.

Something stinks. I agree with you there.

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

I'm honestly surprised and disappointed with how the Daily Show treated Luigi. Even if they were going to condemn the shooting, I thought those people of anyone would at least remember to use the word "alleged" when talking about him.

[Makeshift Python]

I'm honestly surprised and disappointed with how the Daily Show treated Luigi. Even if they were going to condemn the shooting, I thought those people of anyone would at least remember to use the word "alleged" when talking about him.

It's a healthy reminder that corporate media is fully aligned with the rich. The rich want blood, so they're all complying.

[Madner Kami]

What really makes this all stink to the high heavens is, how fast they apprehended the man. I don't buy the "McDonalds worker recognized him"-bit, because a million people look like the man with the mask from the video. Especially after the picture was released, you got myriads of people cosplaying him everywhere and somehow, this one instance the right man got identified by some rando fast food worker who usually barely pays enough attention to recognize someone as a frequent customer? Yeahno, fuck off, you're hiding something there and no, I have no doubts that he is the killer. We should be expressedly more interested in how they actually found him.

[clearspira]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c30qlr528elo

Time to bounce this thread. Prosecutors are seeking the death penalty for Luigi.

Herm... I wonder why the current administration is seeking the toughest possible sentence for killing a multi-millionaire businessman?
Herm...

[hammerofglass]

I still haven't heard of any actual evidence against him other than "he owns the same popular kind of coat and looks a bit but not much like the guy in the video".