Puerto Rico still fucked

[unknownsample]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 17986.html

One sided empathy only opens yourself up for exploitation.

What does that have to with Puerto Rico? over 4000 people have died thanks to the Trump administration doing fuck all to help, because of their negligence and incompetence. The sheer failure to handle this utter disaster should be a cause for national and international outrage ], this should be dominating frontpage news, but no the US media is more concerned about Roseanne.

Also how does that post correspond with what Chuck believes this place can be?

This can be a place where people who disagree fundamentally can still discuss things without resorting to tribalism, bile, and hatred, but instead engage in rational discourse even on the most contentious of topics.

Trump Trump Trump, it's all Trump. Also stop being such a Tribalist.

Well if the Trump administration hadn't messed up in the first place and you still haven't explained the relevancy of the article you linked to.

More like if Puerto Rico didn't depend on fragile solar panels for 40% of it's electricity.

I'm showing that this is political. It has nothing to do with empathizing with the victims of hurricanes, but instead, shitting on Trump and his supporters.

Perhaps I should offer some thoughts and prayers rather than point out the negligence that has caused so many needless deaths, more people have died in Puerto Rico than during 9/11. Perhaps you demand an enquiry into that rather than blame solar panels or point out what a professor in Florida said.

[Antiboyscout]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 17986.html

One sided empathy only opens yourself up for exploitation.

What does that have to with Puerto Rico? over 4000 people have died thanks to the Trump administration doing fuck all to help, because of their negligence and incompetence. The sheer failure to handle this utter disaster should be a cause for national and international outrage ], this should be dominating frontpage news, but no the US media is more concerned about Roseanne.

Also how does that post correspond with what Chuck believes this place can be?

This can be a place where people who disagree fundamentally can still discuss things without resorting to tribalism, bile, and hatred, but instead engage in rational discourse even on the most contentious of topics.

Trump Trump Trump, it's all Trump. Also stop being such a Tribalist.

Well if the Trump administration hadn't messed up in the first place and you still haven't explained the relevancy of the article you linked to.

More like if Puerto Rico didn't depend on fragile solar panels for 40% of it's electricity.

I'm showing that this is political. It has nothing to do with empathizing with the victims of hurricanes, but instead, shitting on Trump and his supporters.

Perhaps I should offer some thoughts and prayers rather than point out the negligence that has caused so many needless deaths, more people have died in Puerto Rico than during 9/11. Perhaps you demand an enquiry into that rather than blame solar panels or point out what a professor in Florida said.

OK I demand an inquiry.
Gross Negligence is a serious accusation. I hope you have the evidence to back it up.

[unknownsample]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 17986.html

One sided empathy only opens yourself up for exploitation.

What does that have to with Puerto Rico? over 4000 people have died thanks to the Trump administration doing fuck all to help, because of their negligence and incompetence. The sheer failure to handle this utter disaster should be a cause for national and international outrage ], this should be dominating frontpage news, but no the US media is more concerned about Roseanne.

Also how does that post correspond with what Chuck believes this place can be?

This can be a place where people who disagree fundamentally can still discuss things without resorting to tribalism, bile, and hatred, but instead engage in rational discourse even on the most contentious of topics.

Trump Trump Trump, it's all Trump. Also stop being such a Tribalist.

Well if the Trump administration hadn't messed up in the first place and you still haven't explained the relevancy of the article you linked to.

More like if Puerto Rico didn't depend on fragile solar panels for 40% of it's electricity.

I'm showing that this is political. It has nothing to do with empathizing with the victims of hurricanes, but instead, shitting on Trump and his supporters.

Perhaps I should offer some thoughts and prayers rather than point out the negligence that has caused so many needless deaths, more people have died in Puerto Rico than during 9/11. Perhaps you demand an enquiry into that rather than blame solar panels or point out what a professor in Florida said.

OK I demand an inquiry.
Gross Negligence is a serious accusation. I hope you have the evidence to back it up.

http://www.nj.com/opinion/index.ssf/201 ... the_o.html

Any recovery from a near-Category 5 hurricane is going to be a massive logistical challenge when it turns 80 percent of the power grid into rubble - and doubly challenging on an island like Puerto Rico, where the power plants on the south coast are separated from most of the population by a rugged central mountain chain.

You don't rebuild transmission lines overnight for 3.5 million people, who are especially vulnerable being 1,000 miles from resources on the American mainland, where two other hurricanes had landed the same month.

But everyone sensed there was something wrong with the federal reaction to Puerto Rico's devastation after Hurricane Maria last September - something that went beyond proximity and logistics - and a gut-wrenching Harvard report about the death toll of 4,645 justifies another look at what many believe was a slow and inadequate response by the federal government.

Indeed, since the release of study, there has been predictable vitriol of Donald Trump's indifference toward people of color, which many consider a factor in this ongoing tragedy. But actual evidence of benign neglect was uncovered eight weeks ago in a Politico report that was based largely on FEMA data.

The news site contrasted responses to Maria and Hurricane Harvey in Houston, starting with the use of helicopters, which are crucial to saving victims and delivering emergency supplies. Within six days of Harvey, U.S. Northern Command deployed 73 helicopters in Houston (with 18 more from the Coast Guard). It was at least three weeks after Maria that 70 helicopters were flying above Puerto Rico.

[Antiboyscout]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 17986.html

One sided empathy only opens yourself up for exploitation.

What does that have to with Puerto Rico? over 4000 people have died thanks to the Trump administration doing fuck all to help, because of their negligence and incompetence. The sheer failure to handle this utter disaster should be a cause for national and international outrage ], this should be dominating frontpage news, but no the US media is more concerned about Roseanne.

Also how does that post correspond with what Chuck believes this place can be?

This can be a place where people who disagree fundamentally can still discuss things without resorting to tribalism, bile, and hatred, but instead engage in rational discourse even on the most contentious of topics.

Trump Trump Trump, it's all Trump. Also stop being such a Tribalist.

Well if the Trump administration hadn't messed up in the first place and you still haven't explained the relevancy of the article you linked to.

More like if Puerto Rico didn't depend on fragile solar panels for 40% of it's electricity.

I'm showing that this is political. It has nothing to do with empathizing with the victims of hurricanes, but instead, shitting on Trump and his supporters.

Perhaps I should offer some thoughts and prayers rather than point out the negligence that has caused so many needless deaths, more people have died in Puerto Rico than during 9/11. Perhaps you demand an enquiry into that rather than blame solar panels or point out what a professor in Florida said.

OK I demand an inquiry.
Gross Negligence is a serious accusation. I hope you have the evidence to back it up.

http://www.nj.com/opinion/index.ssf/201 ... the_o.html

Any recovery from a near-Category 5 hurricane is going to be a massive logistical challenge when it turns 80 percent of the power grid into rubble - and doubly challenging on an island like Puerto Rico, where the power plants on the south coast are separated from most of the population by a rugged central mountain chain.

You don't rebuild transmission lines overnight for 3.5 million people, who are especially vulnerable being 1,000 miles from resources on the American mainland, where two other hurricanes had landed the same month.

But everyone sensed there was something wrong with the federal reaction to Puerto Rico's devastation after Hurricane Maria last September - something that went beyond proximity and logistics - and a gut-wrenching Harvard report about the death toll of 4,645 justifies another look at what many believe was a slow and inadequate response by the federal government.

Indeed, since the release of study, there has been predictable vitriol of Donald Trump's indifference toward people of color, which many consider a factor in this ongoing tragedy. But actual evidence of benign neglect was uncovered eight weeks ago in a Politico report that was based largely on FEMA data.

The news site contrasted responses to Maria and Hurricane Harvey in Houston, starting with the use of helicopters, which are crucial to saving victims and delivering emergency supplies. Within six days of Harvey, U.S. Northern Command deployed 73 helicopters in Houston (with 18 more from the Coast Guard). It was at least three weeks after Maria that 70 helicopters were flying above Puerto Rico.

"Opinion"

"Sensed"

"should have been"

This is your evidence? An opinion piece filled with supposition?

[unknownsample]

Here's the Mayor of San Juan

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/ ... 43b7cd9421

San Juan Mayor Carmen Yulín Cruz accused Donald Trump on Sunday of violating Puerto Ricans’ human rights for his failure to take action to stem the appalling loss of life on the island in the wake of Hurricane Maria.

The situation “has to do with being human,” she told MSNBC.

Trump’s “total neglect has to be called [out],” Cruz added. “The United Nations says that when people are denied the right to access to basic human services — like electric power, like water, like food, like appropriate medical care — that it is a violation of human rights.”

Her latest attack on Trump was in response to a new Harvard study published last week in the New England Journal of Medicine that that death toll from the hurricane is now conservatively estimated to be 4,645. The official death toll remains at 64.

Hurricane Maria devastated the island’s infrastructure; as of April, around 40,000 residents still didn’t have electricity restored to their homes seven months after the disaster.

Perhaps if you bothered to do some research yourself, you might discover a lot more reports which back up my claims.

[TGLS]

You know this line stuck out to me the most.

Texas Senator John Cornyn held up an obscure White House nominee for months to secure adequate support for his state after Harvey

I find it so weird that Americans have such an adversarial style of government.

[Antiboyscout]

Here's the Mayor of San Juan

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/ ... 43b7cd9421

San Juan Mayor Carmen Yulín Cruz accused Donald Trump on Sunday of violating Puerto Ricans’ human rights for his failure to take action to stem the appalling loss of life on the island in the wake of Hurricane Maria.

The situation “has to do with being human,” she told MSNBC.

Trump’s “total neglect has to be called [out],” Cruz added. “The United Nations says that when people are denied the right to access to basic human services — like electric power, like water, like food, like appropriate medical care — that it is a violation of human rights.”

Her latest attack on Trump was in response to a new Harvard study published last week in the New England Journal of Medicine that that death toll from the hurricane is now conservatively estimated to be 4,645. The official death toll remains at 64.

Hurricane Maria devastated the island’s infrastructure; as of April, around 40,000 residents still didn’t have electricity restored to their homes seven months after the disaster.

Perhaps if you bothered to do some research yourself, you might discover a lot more reports which back up my claims.

Is that the same mayor that complained in front of TV cameras about not having supplies while standing in front of pallets of food and water?

"Accused" no evidence.

Are they being "denied" services or are they just not available. Electricity is the number one thing where nothing works without it. It's bad that it's not 100% back yet, but that is a mile away from active neglect and gross negligence.

[unknownsample]

Never mind the Havard study, which actually backs up my claim oh and can I have an answer to my question about what a tweet from a Florida professor about Hurricane Harvey has to do with Puerto Rico ?

[Antiboyscout]

Never mind the Havard study, which actually backs up my claim oh and can I have an answer to my question about what a tweet from a Florida professor about Hurricane Harvey has to do with Puerto Rico ?

NO it Doesn't. A high death toll does NOT prove Trump was grossly negligent in the same way my house burning down does NOT prove Trump set it on fire.

I already said. I'm showing that this is all political. It's not about helping hurricane victims. It's about shitting on Trump.

[unknownsample]

I never said Trump I said Trump Administration.