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Draco Dracul wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2019 6:08 pm
ICE isn't designed to handle asylum seekers because traditionally asylum seekers were let in without long term detention as they have the right, via international treaty, to enter the country. Obama's approach to asylum seekers was not a bandaid, it was standard operating procedure.
Unless they're from Mexico or Canada, no they don't. According to the UN they must stop at the first safe country.
Draco Dracul wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2019 8:51 pmAnd to be frank I don't want the Democrats to give a single bone to the Republicans on immigration because anyone left that would even think about voting for Trump is evil.
That's not a very practical approach in a country as divided as ours. Any real solution is going to involve compromise - and yes, I realize that's a hard sell for many right now.
It's the only practical approach as the last decade has shown that compromise, especially compromise on immigration, is completely impossible as long as the GOP holds the presidency or any chamber of Congress.
LittleRaven wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:13 pm
But there is good news. Most polls suggest that there isn't THAT much daylight between the bulk of the parties on immigration. Yes, some Republicans want a virtual ethnostate and some Democrats want essentially open borders, but most people are quite content to settle for neither - they want firmly controlled borders, but with a humane detainment policy and a clear path to residency and citizenship.
And that will never happen as long as the GOP hold a single lever of power because the racists control the party. There was chance for compromise after the 2012 election, but that was scuttled by the house GOP, and then they decided to double down on racism in 2016.
Draco Dracul wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2019 6:08 pm
ICE isn't designed to handle asylum seekers because traditionally asylum seekers were let in without long term detention as they have the right, via international treaty, to enter the country. Obama's approach to asylum seekers was not a bandaid, it was standard operating procedure.
Unless they're from Mexico or Canada, no they don't. According to the UN they must stop at the first safe country.
You're half right, we have a treaty with Canada designating as a safe country, we do not have such a treaty with Mexico. Trump could have negotiated such a deal with Mexico as part of the NAFTA negotiations or separately, but has opted not to.
