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Agent Vinod wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:12 pm
Political movements are not defined by the casuals, The hardcore drive the agenda.
In America I'd love to introduce you to the Religious Right which are the least religious, most venal, corrupt and parodic version of churchmen you'll ever find. They are, however, very good at dog whistle politics that they use to distract the base and get them fired about about things which they may or may not care about themselves but can generate votes as well as donations for.
So, it's not that case either.
To be a religious fanatic, you have to believe in God and that's severely debatable in the Right of America. Mind you, it occassionally backfires on them as we see with the Tea Party and Trump.
In what way are they driving the agenda besides not wanting to be forced to do stuff and be left alone at this point?
I see the people driving the left's agenda just as fanatical as they were in their prime.
Political thought is kinda hamstrung by vocabulary in the US. The Left is often equated as Liberals, but there is more than just Liberals on the Left. Progressives/Socialists make up the far left with Liberals and Neo-Liberals more toward the center. It is understandable why a Progressive would call a Liberal a reactionary. They are against "progress".
CharlesPhipps wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 3:19 pm
That's stupid because the Left is composed of the former moderates. The Left in America is crippled, impotent, and a failure.
It's completely incapable of pushing back and it saddens me.
I say that as a former Republican.
Push back? You mean Continue to push. The Left has been on the offense and the Right on the defense for a long time.
The Left over extended and now the Right gets to have it's time.
Antiboyscout wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 3:25 pm
Push back? You mean Continue to push. The Left has been on the offense and the Right on the defense for a long time.
The Left over extended and now the Right gets to have it's time.
The Right used to stand for something but it has become a corrupt parody of its former self that actively targets the American public. The super-rich targeting those desperate for any sort of government assistance due to an active campaign to destroy American business. I suspect we're not going to agree on this.
Im not someone who plays politics like sports teams, though. I'm just bitterly disillusioned.
Antiboyscout wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 3:25 pm
Push back? You mean Continue to push. The Left has been on the offense and the Right on the defense for a long time.
The Left over extended and now the Right gets to have it's time.
The Right used to stand for something but it has become a corrupt parody of its former self that actively targets the American public. The super-rich targeting those desperate for any sort of government assistance due to an active campaign to destroy American business. I suspect we're not going to agree on this.
Im not someone who plays politics like sports teams, though. I'm just bitterly disillusioned.
Unfortunately, the courting of big money Corporations has been an ongoing affair in both parties for a long time. Fortunately, (for Republicans) that baggage is no longer on them. Hillary Clinton quite firmly grabbed those bags during the elections.
Want an easy way to destroy small businesses? Implement so many Gov. regulations that it takes a literal team of lawyers to keep track of them all. Make that startup expense higher and higher so no one can even afford to try.
CharlesPhipps wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 3:19 pm
That's stupid because the Left is composed of the former moderates. The Left in America is crippled, impotent, and a failure.
It's completely incapable of pushing back and it saddens me.
I say that as a former Republican.
You don't think the radical turn on social policies exhibited by the press and academia is left wing?
Agent Vinod wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 6:53 pm
You don't think the radical turn on social policies exhibited by the press and academia is left wing?
I work in academia. It's always been social justice orientated in certain areas (political science) but it's incredibly right in other areas (any economics class and most history). The idea there's been a big shift certainly doesn't reflect my twenty years of college experience at various institutions as both a student and teacher at multiple universities.
Agent Vinod wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 6:53 pm
You don't think the radical turn on social policies exhibited by the press and academia is left wing?
I work in academia. It's always been social justice orientated in certain areas (political science) but it's incredibly right in other areas (any economics class and most history). The idea there's been a big shift certainly doesn't reflect my twenty years of college experience at various institutions as both a student and teacher at multiple universities.
Were you surprised by some of the high profile Ivy League incidents recently?
