Conservative attends Alexandria-Cortez rally, terrified by empathy and kindness

[Steve]

Heh, this was an article by a conservatives for conservatives, given the writer doesn't even bother explaining why she felt the way she did.

To make it more clear than she did, while everyone else is making fun of the idea that compassion and charity are anathema to conservatives... she was essentially saying she was visiting a gathering of spoiled brats and for a moment thought she understood why the spoiled brats' message of being given what you want simply because you demand it can appeal to the ignorant and unknowing.

Because that's basically how conservatives view this kind of thing: liberals and demo-socialists as spoiled brats demanding boons they haven't earned from the hardworking people who have to actually pay for those boons.

At least modern conservatives, although even Bismarck put together a welfare state primarily as a political tactic to pull the rug out from under the SDP (which didn't quite work...) and, IIRC, as part of one of his many repeated shifting of alliances in Germany, binding labor to the conservative junker class against the oft-socially liberal urban capitalist and business class.

[Karha of Honor]

Heh, this was an article by a conservatives for conservatives, given the writer doesn't even bother explaining why she felt the way she did.

To make it more clear than she did, while everyone else is making fun of the idea that compassion and charity are anathema to conservatives... she was essentially saying she was visiting a gathering of spoiled brats and for a moment thought she understood why the spoiled brats' message of being given what you want simply because you demand it can appeal to the ignorant and unknowing.

Because that's basically how conservatives view this kind of thing: liberals and demo-socialists as spoiled brats demanding boons they haven't earned from the hardworking people who have to actually pay for those boons.

At least modern conservatives, although even Bismarck put together a welfare state primarily as a political tactic to pull the rug out from under the SDP (which didn't quite work...) and, IIRC, as part of one of his many repeated shifting of alliances in Germany, binding labor to the conservative junker class against the oft-socially liberal urban capitalist and business class.

You speculate that all conservatives have that reductive view based on?

[Steve]

You speculate that all conservatives have that reductive view based on?

Well, I should have clarified modern American conservatives. At its root conservatism is supposed to be about avoiding unnecessary change, and in general American conservatism was about promoting personal responsibility instead of just giving hand-outs. It's just that some people will take that concept and expand it to the mentality that asking for government-guaranteed healthcare, education, etc., is people demanding to be given free stuff.

Then again, I've apparently become a liberal ever since the Overton lines shifted, so I may be thinking in outmoded terms.

Although I usually define myself as a 21st Century Whig just to watch people stare at me blankly. Granted, I'm more of an Adams-Clay Nationalist Whig adapted to this time period, with less emphasis on promoting moralist communalism and more on promoting the national welfare through government-supported investment in infrastructure and other items of importance that the private market doesn't always do or at least do well. Those Tyler States' Right Whigs can go to hell.

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

Heh, this was an article by a conservatives for conservatives, given the writer doesn't even bother explaining why she felt the way she did.

To make it more clear than she did, while everyone else is making fun of the idea that compassion and charity are anathema to conservatives... she was essentially saying she was visiting a gathering of spoiled brats and for a moment thought she understood why the spoiled brats' message of being given what you want simply because you demand it can appeal to the ignorant and unknowing.

Because that's basically how conservatives view this kind of thing: liberals and demo-socialists as spoiled brats demanding boons they haven't earned from the hardworking people who have to actually pay for those boons.

At least modern conservatives, although even Bismarck put together a welfare state primarily as a political tactic to pull the rug out from under the SDP (which didn't quite work...) and, IIRC, as part of one of his many repeated shifting of alliances in Germany, binding labor to the conservative junker class against the oft-socially liberal urban capitalist and business class.

You speculate that all conservatives have that reductive view based on?

Well, you haven't commented on the actually original post of the reply, so you could contribute more to the discourse by stating your feelings on the article and thus usefully expanding our perceptions.

[Karha of Honor]

Heh, this was an article by a conservatives for conservatives, given the writer doesn't even bother explaining why she felt the way she did.

To make it more clear than she did, while everyone else is making fun of the idea that compassion and charity are anathema to conservatives... she was essentially saying she was visiting a gathering of spoiled brats and for a moment thought she understood why the spoiled brats' message of being given what you want simply because you demand it can appeal to the ignorant and unknowing.

Because that's basically how conservatives view this kind of thing: liberals and demo-socialists as spoiled brats demanding boons they haven't earned from the hardworking people who have to actually pay for those boons.

At least modern conservatives, although even Bismarck put together a welfare state primarily as a political tactic to pull the rug out from under the SDP (which didn't quite work...) and, IIRC, as part of one of his many repeated shifting of alliances in Germany, binding labor to the conservative junker class against the oft-socially liberal urban capitalist and business class.

You speculate that all conservatives have that reductive view based on?

Well, you haven't commented on the actually original post of the reply, so you could contribute more to the discourse by stating your feelings on the article and thus usefully expanding our perceptions.

I feel i was usefull enough.

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

Heh, this was an article by a conservatives for conservatives, given the writer doesn't even bother explaining why she felt the way she did.

To make it more clear than she did, while everyone else is making fun of the idea that compassion and charity are anathema to conservatives... she was essentially saying she was visiting a gathering of spoiled brats and for a moment thought she understood why the spoiled brats' message of being given what you want simply because you demand it can appeal to the ignorant and unknowing.

Because that's basically how conservatives view this kind of thing: liberals and demo-socialists as spoiled brats demanding boons they haven't earned from the hardworking people who have to actually pay for those boons.

At least modern conservatives, although even Bismarck put together a welfare state primarily as a political tactic to pull the rug out from under the SDP (which didn't quite work...) and, IIRC, as part of one of his many repeated shifting of alliances in Germany, binding labor to the conservative junker class against the oft-socially liberal urban capitalist and business class.

You speculate that all conservatives have that reductive view based on?

Well, you haven't commented on the actually original post of the reply, so you could contribute more to the discourse by stating your feelings on the article and thus usefully expanding our perceptions.

I feel i was usefull enough.

Do you? Because I think it would make you more of an active participant in the thread if you actually commented on the post that the thread started with in some way. For example, you could say "This woman doesn't represent my idea of conservativism. What conservative means to me is ____."

[Karha of Honor]

Heh, this was an article by a conservatives for conservatives, given the writer doesn't even bother explaining why she felt the way she did.

To make it more clear than she did, while everyone else is making fun of the idea that compassion and charity are anathema to conservatives... she was essentially saying she was visiting a gathering of spoiled brats and for a moment thought she understood why the spoiled brats' message of being given what you want simply because you demand it can appeal to the ignorant and unknowing.

Because that's basically how conservatives view this kind of thing: liberals and demo-socialists as spoiled brats demanding boons they haven't earned from the hardworking people who have to actually pay for those boons.

At least modern conservatives, although even Bismarck put together a welfare state primarily as a political tactic to pull the rug out from under the SDP (which didn't quite work...) and, IIRC, as part of one of his many repeated shifting of alliances in Germany, binding labor to the conservative junker class against the oft-socially liberal urban capitalist and business class.

You speculate that all conservatives have that reductive view based on?

Well, you haven't commented on the actually original post of the reply, so you could contribute more to the discourse by stating your feelings on the article and thus usefully expanding our perceptions.

I feel i was usefull enough.

Do you? Because I think it would make you more of an active participant in the thread if you actually commented on the post that the thread started with in some way. For example, you could say "This woman doesn't represent my idea of conservativism. What conservative means to me is ____."

But i find Steve more faSCINATING at this moment.