Germany to US on US joining surveillance missions near Iran: No way

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

Even then, the "aggressor" only applies collectively to a nation or ethnic group, not individuals. And I hate people shaming those on the individual level who have the least amount of power to affect change even if they support the actions taking place. It's pure hypocrisy. I refuse to be blamed for Trump or anything Obama did even though Obama had my unconditional support.

Yeah I don't think that has much to do with what I was getting at.

[Yukaphile]

Needs to be said.

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

[Antiboyscout]

Considering that escalation wouldn't help anyone I would say that Germany is being sensible. Sad thing is, Iran could had been US's ally in so called war of terror since they belong to another sect of Islam that ISIS and other extreme groups hate if US wasn't so hostile towards them while being ally with Saudi Arabia that finances ISIS and others. It's sad reality of politics and business that money comes before everything else.

And Iran funds Hamas and others. Don't pretend like they're clean. All the terrorism in the mid east is just a proxy conflict between those two countries.

Oh geez, turning it from an us to an us vs them.

Truth is I think it's just unionizing separating America out for its more recent global policies and actions.

How am I turning it into an us verses them?

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

Considering that escalation wouldn't help anyone I would say that Germany is being sensible. Sad thing is, Iran could had been US's ally in so called war of terror since they belong to another sect of Islam that ISIS and other extreme groups hate if US wasn't so hostile towards them while being ally with Saudi Arabia that finances ISIS and others. It's sad reality of politics and business that money comes before everything else.

And Iran funds Hamas and others. Don't pretend like they're clean. All the terrorism in the mid east is just a proxy conflict between those two countries.

Oh geez, turning it from an us to an us vs them.

Truth is I think it's just unionizing separating America out for its more recent global policies and actions.

How am I turning it into an us verses them?

Idunno

[CaptainCalvinCat]

Us vs. them is inevitable when you got a monkey brain. The truly sad part is people can't agree on what the true "us vs. them" should be and make excuses for bad people and demonize good people. Same problems as ten thousand years ago. Really wish we'd grow up as a society.

You're right. We might still be "apes" in a biological way, but should we not be more evolved than trying to hit other people with a stick?

[Karha of Honor]

Us vs. them is inevitable when you got a monkey brain. The truly sad part is people can't agree on what the true "us vs. them" should be and make excuses for bad people and demonize good people. Same problems as ten thousand years ago. Really wish we'd grow up as a society.

Not at ball the same problems.

Food is not scarce like it was, running water, longer lifespans. Bitch in a way that makes sense.

[Madner Kami]

Us vs. them is inevitable when you got a monkey brain. The truly sad part is people can't agree on what the true "us vs. them" should be and make excuses for bad people and demonize good people. Same problems as ten thousand years ago. Really wish we'd grow up as a society.

You're right. We might still be "apes" in a biological way, but should we not be more evolved than trying to hit other people with a stick?

We are. We use bullets, nukes and, probably the most abhorent and insidious weapons ever developed, words.

[CaptainCalvinCat]

Us vs. them is inevitable when you got a monkey brain. The truly sad part is people can't agree on what the true "us vs. them" should be and make excuses for bad people and demonize good people. Same problems as ten thousand years ago. Really wish we'd grow up as a society.

You're right. We might still be "apes" in a biological way, but should we not be more evolved than trying to hit other people with a stick?

We are. We use bullets, nukes and, probably the most abhorent and insidious weapons ever developed, words.

Good one, Madner, very good one.

[Yukaphile]

Words are more powerful than people realize.