Police prepared for January 6th attack-- they prepared for Anti-Trump protestors

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Re: Police prepared for January 6th attack-- they prepared for Anti-Trump protestors

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McAvoy wrote: Thu Nov 04, 2021 4:10 am
Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Wed Nov 03, 2021 4:43 am Also there's like...a pretty big overlap in the "Police" and "Right Wing Terrorist" venn diagram, to the extent that police unions actively refuse to investigate white supremacy within their ranks.
One thing I have wondered about for the years about cops and 'social heirarchy' is the location of the cops and where the cops themselves came from.
It's almost universal that city cops in the US do not live in the cities where they work. The reason why a lot of cops act like an occupying Army is that in many respects they are.
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Draco Dracul wrote: Thu Nov 04, 2021 11:13 pm
McAvoy wrote: Thu Nov 04, 2021 4:10 am
Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Wed Nov 03, 2021 4:43 am Also there's like...a pretty big overlap in the "Police" and "Right Wing Terrorist" venn diagram, to the extent that police unions actively refuse to investigate white supremacy within their ranks.
One thing I have wondered about for the years about cops and 'social heirarchy' is the location of the cops and where the cops themselves came from.
It's almost universal that city cops in the US do not live in the cities where they work. The reason why a lot of cops act like an occupying Army is that in many respects they are.
Citation needed.
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Madner Kami wrote: Thu Nov 04, 2021 11:49 pm
Draco Dracul wrote: Thu Nov 04, 2021 11:13 pm
McAvoy wrote: Thu Nov 04, 2021 4:10 am
Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Wed Nov 03, 2021 4:43 am Also there's like...a pretty big overlap in the "Police" and "Right Wing Terrorist" venn diagram, to the extent that police unions actively refuse to investigate white supremacy within their ranks.
One thing I have wondered about for the years about cops and 'social heirarchy' is the location of the cops and where the cops themselves came from.
It's almost universal that city cops in the US do not live in the cities where they work. The reason why a lot of cops act like an occupying Army is that in many respects they are.
Citation needed.
I'll try and find more general statistics, but less than 10 percent of Minneapolis police live in Minneapolis:
https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2020/06/ ... -traction/
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Draco Dracul wrote: Thu Nov 04, 2021 11:13 pm
McAvoy wrote: Thu Nov 04, 2021 4:10 am
Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Wed Nov 03, 2021 4:43 am Also there's like...a pretty big overlap in the "Police" and "Right Wing Terrorist" venn diagram, to the extent that police unions actively refuse to investigate white supremacy within their ranks.
One thing I have wondered about for the years about cops and 'social heirarchy' is the location of the cops and where the cops themselves came from.
It's almost universal that city cops in the US do not live in the cities where they work. The reason why a lot of cops act like an occupying Army is that in many respects they are.
In what way do cops act like a occupying Army? Because I know what a occupying army looks like.
I got nothing to say here.
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clearspira wrote: Thu Nov 04, 2021 7:06 am
CharlesPhipps wrote: Wed Nov 03, 2021 12:58 pm The irony being January 6th was the biggest net gain for the police's reputation they could have got because the police did prevent a massacre and suffered casualties in the process of doing so.
Still continuing with this idea that there would have been a massacre huh? I guess you have to. Trump hasn't said he won't run in 2024 yet ;)
The attack caused injuries of at least 138 police officers (73 Capitol Police officers, 65 Metropolitan Police Department officers). There were also pipe bombs discovered near Capitol Complex.

Their plan was to capture and pressure Congress and Vice President Mike Pence to overturn the election of Joe Biden in favor of Trump, that's basically an act of terrorism.
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McAvoy wrote: Fri Nov 05, 2021 5:20 am
Draco Dracul wrote: Thu Nov 04, 2021 11:13 pm
McAvoy wrote: Thu Nov 04, 2021 4:10 am
Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Wed Nov 03, 2021 4:43 am Also there's like...a pretty big overlap in the "Police" and "Right Wing Terrorist" venn diagram, to the extent that police unions actively refuse to investigate white supremacy within their ranks.
One thing I have wondered about for the years about cops and 'social heirarchy' is the location of the cops and where the cops themselves came from.
It's almost universal that city cops in the US do not live in the cities where they work. The reason why a lot of cops act like an occupying Army is that in many respects they are.
In what way do cops act like a occupying Army? Because I know what a occupying army looks like.
Do you mean current cops in the context of this thread or historically?

Regardless it's probably a good idea to avoid gate keeping oppression.
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BBally81 wrote: Fri Nov 05, 2021 12:45 pmTheir plan was to capture and pressure Congress and Vice President Mike Pence to overturn the election of Joe Biden in favor of Trump, that's basically an act of terrorism.
I'm torn between letting it be called terrorism and seeing it as a laughable attempt to steer things.
..What mirror universe?
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goodperson25 wrote: Fri Nov 05, 2021 8:25 pm
McAvoy wrote: Fri Nov 05, 2021 5:20 am
Draco Dracul wrote: Thu Nov 04, 2021 11:13 pm
McAvoy wrote: Thu Nov 04, 2021 4:10 am
Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Wed Nov 03, 2021 4:43 am Also there's like...a pretty big overlap in the "Police" and "Right Wing Terrorist" venn diagram, to the extent that police unions actively refuse to investigate white supremacy within their ranks.
One thing I have wondered about for the years about cops and 'social heirarchy' is the location of the cops and where the cops themselves came from.
It's almost universal that city cops in the US do not live in the cities where they work. The reason why a lot of cops act like an occupying Army is that in many respects they are.
In what way do cops act like a occupying Army? Because I know what a occupying army looks like.
Do you mean current cops in the context of this thread or historically?

Regardless it's probably a good idea to avoid gate keeping oppression.
Gate keeping. Holy fuck.

I know what an occupying army looks like because I was part of one! I mean holy shit! Anyone here getting their car searched every time they over a bridge? Do you see fully dressed cops with M16s or equivalent along with body armor, helmets? Do you see tanks and armored vehicles riding down your street? Do you hear and see military drones and planes loaded to bomb your car? Do you have snipers up in buildings ready to kill you? Do you have snipers with 20mm rounds ready to destroy your engine at the check point?

And I mean all the time, every day, every hour.

Jesus Christ. Maybe DragonBall Fan was right.
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McAvoy wrote: Sat Nov 06, 2021 2:55 am
goodperson25 wrote: Fri Nov 05, 2021 8:25 pm
McAvoy wrote: Fri Nov 05, 2021 5:20 am
Draco Dracul wrote: Thu Nov 04, 2021 11:13 pm
McAvoy wrote: Thu Nov 04, 2021 4:10 am
Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Wed Nov 03, 2021 4:43 am Also there's like...a pretty big overlap in the "Police" and "Right Wing Terrorist" venn diagram, to the extent that police unions actively refuse to investigate white supremacy within their ranks.
One thing I have wondered about for the years about cops and 'social heirarchy' is the location of the cops and where the cops themselves came from.
It's almost universal that city cops in the US do not live in the cities where they work. The reason why a lot of cops act like an occupying Army is that in many respects they are.
In what way do cops act like a occupying Army? Because I know what a occupying army looks like.
Do you mean current cops in the context of this thread or historically?

Regardless it's probably a good idea to avoid gate keeping oppression.
Gate keeping. Holy fuck.

I know what an occupying army looks like because I was part of one! I mean holy shit! Anyone here getting their car searched every time they over a bridge? Do you see fully dressed cops with M16s or equivalent along with body armor, helmets? Do you see tanks and armored vehicles riding down your street? Do you hear and see military drones and planes loaded to bomb your car? Do you have snipers up in buildings ready to kill you? Do you have snipers with 20mm rounds ready to destroy your engine at the check point?

And I mean all the time, every day, every hour.

Jesus Christ. Maybe DragonBall Fan was right.
Wow. Did you even pay attention to anything else I said or just saw the word gatekeeping and went off?

And again where/when is the "here" you are you talking about? Frankly I don't care about the lack of universal martial law when there are enforcers (apparently of law but historically of colonialism, occupation/assimilation and conquest) in my developed country who have a history of murder to the point we have a cute nickname for the practice. Police are in many respects an occupying force.
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goodperson25 wrote: Fri Nov 05, 2021 8:25 pm
McAvoy wrote: Fri Nov 05, 2021 5:20 am
Draco Dracul wrote: Thu Nov 04, 2021 11:13 pm
McAvoy wrote: Thu Nov 04, 2021 4:10 am
Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Wed Nov 03, 2021 4:43 am Also there's like...a pretty big overlap in the "Police" and "Right Wing Terrorist" venn diagram, to the extent that police unions actively refuse to investigate white supremacy within their ranks.
One thing I have wondered about for the years about cops and 'social heirarchy' is the location of the cops and where the cops themselves came from.
It's almost universal that city cops in the US do not live in the cities where they work. The reason why a lot of cops act like an occupying Army is that in many respects they are.
In what way do cops act like a occupying Army? Because I know what a occupying army looks like.
Do you mean current cops in the context of this thread or historically?

Regardless it's probably a good idea to avoid gate keeping oppression.
My vote is you start historically and proceed very, very gradually into the context of this thread.
..What mirror universe?
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