3 Palestinian men shot in Vermont

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Madner Kami wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 3:24 pm
clearspira wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 12:13 pmHistorically its the Left who are anti-semetic not the Right.
There are times when I wonder, whether you are trolling by intent or you ended up with a severe brain injury in between posts. Unless you're one of those people who think that the NSDAP was left-wing, because it carried the words "social" and "worker" in it's name. In that case, you're just stupid. Granted, "the Left" isn't exactly better than "the Right" when it comes to treating the Jews (or minorities in general) a lot of the time, but so far only one side of the woefully-inadequate political left-right-spectrum managed to commit an industrialized genocide and I can tell you first hand: It wasn't the woke folks.
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clearspira wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 12:13 pm
hammerofglass wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 9:50 am And the people actually attacking both are far-right straight white cis men very angry at the "woke" who think current sentiments give them permission to vent their insecurities on someone.
Historically its the Left who are anti-semetic not the Right. I'm NOT calling any of you on here anti-semites, but there has also been a very clear and predictable ideological divide on the other thread. Fuzzy himself questioned why the Democrats would ever support Israel, implying that it is a ''Republican thing to do.'' And looking at the people marching through London right now on the pro-Palestine marches, most of them ain't white either.

Are you sure that you do not want to reassess that statement? I'm afraid your cis-heterosexual white male bogeyman isn't to blame on this one. That's a typical Left thing too BTW.
Do you honestly think the Nazis were left wing?
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clearspira wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 9:23 am
Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Sun Nov 26, 2023 11:56 pm https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/11/ ... amas-truce

I wonder if this has any connection to current events or political sentiments. Hmm...
Attacks on Jews in the US up 60% https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-67281042

I wonder if this has any connection to current events or political sentiments. Hmm...
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Had to send this to a friend of mine, who even though they're Pakistani... bigots don't care. Hope they and others I know stay safe in crazy times.

Plus given my wife is jewish, my neighbor (who is a neo nazi) really started up new shit.
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Damn! That's scary. :(
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clearspira wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 12:13 pmHistorically its the Left who are anti-semetic not the Right. I'm NOT calling any of you on here anti-semites, but there has also been a very clear and predictable ideological divide on the other thread. Fuzzy himself questioned why the Democrats would ever support Israel, implying that it is a ''Republican thing to do.'' And looking at the people marching through London right now on the pro-Palestine marches, most of them ain't white either.

Are you sure that you do not want to reassess that statement? I'm afraid your cis-heterosexual white male bogeyman isn't to blame on this one. That's a typical Left thing too BTW.
Israel has been supported by the Democrats just as much as the Republicans. It's a universal issue.

Only now is there recent questions over whether or not to support it from a non-fringe Left position and the Right isn't exactly running to support Israel these days because they're more interested in isolationalism.
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Madner Kami wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 3:24 pm
clearspira wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 12:13 pmHistorically its the Left who are anti-semetic not the Right.
There are times when I wonder, whether you are trolling by intent or you ended up with a severe brain injury in between posts. Unless you're one of those people who think that the NSDAP was left-wing, because it carried the words "social" and "worker" in it's name. In that case, you're just stupid. Granted, "the Left" isn't exactly better than "the Right" when it comes to treating the Jews (or minorities in general) a lot of the time, but so far only one side of the woefully-inadequate political left-right-spectrum managed to commit an industrialized genocide and I can tell you first hand: It wasn't the woke folks.
You really have to wonder. It's not like this sort of information is obscure either.
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McAvoy wrote: Sat Dec 02, 2023 5:02 am
Madner Kami wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 3:24 pm
clearspira wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 12:13 pmHistorically its the Left who are anti-semetic not the Right.
There are times when I wonder, whether you are trolling by intent or you ended up with a severe brain injury in between posts. Unless you're one of those people who think that the NSDAP was left-wing, because it carried the words "social" and "worker" in it's name. In that case, you're just stupid. Granted, "the Left" isn't exactly better than "the Right" when it comes to treating the Jews (or minorities in general) a lot of the time, but so far only one side of the woefully-inadequate political left-right-spectrum managed to commit an industrialized genocide and I can tell you first hand: It wasn't the woke folks.
You really have to wonder. It's not like this sort of information is obscure either.
It's the disconnect between "reasonable adult" clearspira and "4chan edgelord" clearspira that throws me. They seem like completely different people who hate everything the other stands for.
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He makes good arguments It just a lot of time what he arguing for is very stupid
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hammerofglass wrote: Sat Dec 02, 2023 10:17 am
McAvoy wrote: Sat Dec 02, 2023 5:02 am
Madner Kami wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 3:24 pm
clearspira wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2023 12:13 pmHistorically its the Left who are anti-semetic not the Right.
There are times when I wonder, whether you are trolling by intent or you ended up with a severe brain injury in between posts. Unless you're one of those people who think that the NSDAP was left-wing, because it carried the words "social" and "worker" in it's name. In that case, you're just stupid. Granted, "the Left" isn't exactly better than "the Right" when it comes to treating the Jews (or minorities in general) a lot of the time, but so far only one side of the woefully-inadequate political left-right-spectrum managed to commit an industrialized genocide and I can tell you first hand: It wasn't the woke folks.
You really have to wonder. It's not like this sort of information is obscure either.
It's the disconnect between "reasonable adult" clearspira and "4chan edgelord" clearspira that throws me. They seem like completely different people who hate everything the other stands for.
This is just weird one for me. If I didn't know any better I would have placed him in the same category of the far right commentators that like to say 'the lefties are a bunch of facist Marxist communist traitors blah blah' that is way too common nowadays.

But I know better, and you have to ask what the hell was clearspira smoking when he suggested the left is more antisemitic than the right.
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