The Russian Invasion of Ukraine

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Wait why are North Korean troops there in the first place?
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Thebestoftherest wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 12:45 pm Wait why are North Korean troops there in the first place?
Because whilst apparently it will be WW3 if NATO puts a single boot in Ukraine, Putin is allowed to give Kim Jong premium discounts on oil and help with their ballistic weapons programs in favour of sending 10,000 soldiers into Ukraine.

And people say that we are the warmongers in this situation.

Update on Syria whilst I am here: Russia is about to lose its only port in the Middle East which analysts predict will cause considerable damage to his North African interests. Ukraine is not just Putin's Vietnam at this point - it is his Suez Canal. The point in which the Empire falls.
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clearspira wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 1:42 pm
Thebestoftherest wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 12:45 pm Wait why are North Korean troops there in the first place?
Because whilst apparently it will be WW3 if NATO puts a single boot in Ukraine, Putin is allowed to give Kim Jong premium discounts on oil and help with their ballistic weapons programs in favour of sending 10,000 soldiers into Ukraine.

And people say that we are the warmongers in this situation.
Who's saying that? Well other than the obvious pro-Russian idiots and trolls anyway. Russia hasn't really mastered the art of lying, I suppose when you can say whatever you like and just lock up anyone who questions it you lose sight of how ridiculous your nonsense appears to everyone else.
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Riedquat wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 2:31 pm
clearspira wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 1:42 pm
Thebestoftherest wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 12:45 pm Wait why are North Korean troops there in the first place?
Because whilst apparently it will be WW3 if NATO puts a single boot in Ukraine, Putin is allowed to give Kim Jong premium discounts on oil and help with their ballistic weapons programs in favour of sending 10,000 soldiers into Ukraine.

And people say that we are the warmongers in this situation.
Who's saying that? Well other than the obvious pro-Russian idiots and trolls anyway. Russia hasn't really mastered the art of lying, I suppose when you can say whatever you like and just lock up anyone who questions it you lose sight of how ridiculous your nonsense appears to everyone else.
The sad truth of the matter is that ''Pro-Russian idiot'' is a much larger demographic than many of us would like to admit. Spend a morning in a Youtube comment section, Quora or on Facebook. Some could be trolls of course, but that is a lot of trolls.
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Let's call them what they are bastards, happy to see innocent lives ended and ruin just because they can.
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clearspira wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 2:48 pm
Riedquat wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 2:31 pm
clearspira wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 1:42 pm
Thebestoftherest wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 12:45 pm Wait why are North Korean troops there in the first place?
Because whilst apparently it will be WW3 if NATO puts a single boot in Ukraine, Putin is allowed to give Kim Jong premium discounts on oil and help with their ballistic weapons programs in favour of sending 10,000 soldiers into Ukraine.

And people say that we are the warmongers in this situation.
Who's saying that? Well other than the obvious pro-Russian idiots and trolls anyway. Russia hasn't really mastered the art of lying, I suppose when you can say whatever you like and just lock up anyone who questions it you lose sight of how ridiculous your nonsense appears to everyone else.
The sad truth of the matter is that ''Pro-Russian idiot'' is a much larger demographic than many of us would like to admit. Spend a morning in a Youtube comment section, Quora or on Facebook. Some could be trolls of course, but that is a lot of trolls.
Reading comments on such places has always suggested a very large number of idiots, the question is how does that tie in with what you see when you actually see people for real?
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These are the same people who think the civil war in America wasn't over Slavery. They are contrarian for contrarian sake, and have no empathy or ability to reason for other people. To them, everyone MUST act like me, or they are lying because reasons. Only I know the truth, and I'm the only one brave enough to say it. Well, me and my friends... and Joe Rogan.
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[quote=Nobody700 post_id=138226 time=1733621020 user_id=2817]
These are the same people who think the civil war in America wasn't over Slavery. They are contrarian for contrarian sake, and have no empathy or ability to reason for other people. To them, everyone MUST act like me, or they are lying because reasons. Only I know the truth, and I'm the only one brave enough to say it. Well, me and my friends... and Joe Rogan.
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The whole Lost Cause/"states rights"/ "it wasn't about slavery" thing was taught in schools as historical fact in a lot of the country from pretty much since the war ended until like twenty years ago, and still going in some places. They aren't just randomly being individual contrarians, they were systematically lied to.
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hammerofglass wrote: Sun Dec 08, 2024 8:31 am
Nobody700 wrote: Sun Dec 08, 2024 1:23 am These are the same people who think the civil war in America wasn't over Slavery. They are contrarian for contrarian sake, and have no empathy or ability to reason for other people. To them, everyone MUST act like me, or they are lying because reasons. Only I know the truth, and I'm the only one brave enough to say it. Well, me and my friends... and Joe Rogan.
The whole Lost Cause/"states rights"/ "it wasn't about slavery" thing was taught in schools as historical fact in a lot of the country from pretty much since the war ended until like twenty years ago, and still going in some places. They aren't just randomly being individual contrarians, they were systematically lied to.
EHHHH I agree with you to a point. I grew up in KKK territory and even I was taught it was about slavery. The problem was, it was just 'one of the many issues'. When it was THE issue, and everything was a byproduct.
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Nobody700 wrote: Sun Dec 08, 2024 5:45 pm
hammerofglass wrote: Sun Dec 08, 2024 8:31 am
Nobody700 wrote: Sun Dec 08, 2024 1:23 am These are the same people who think the civil war in America wasn't over Slavery. They are contrarian for contrarian sake, and have no empathy or ability to reason for other people. To them, everyone MUST act like me, or they are lying because reasons. Only I know the truth, and I'm the only one brave enough to say it. Well, me and my friends... and Joe Rogan.
The whole Lost Cause/"states rights"/ "it wasn't about slavery" thing was taught in schools as historical fact in a lot of the country from pretty much since the war ended until like twenty years ago, and still going in some places. They aren't just randomly being individual contrarians, they were systematically lied to.
EHHHH I agree with you to a point. I grew up in KKK territory and even I was taught it was about slavery. The problem was, it was just 'one of the many issues'. When it was THE issue, and everything was a byproduct.
The internet helped solve this issue as you can go read the Confederate declaration of independence.

It says its preserve slavery and white supremacy.
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