Trump Lambasting Diverse Congress People

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Moreso for LittleRaven than anyone else, but here's a breakdown of usage of Concentration Camp that goes into more detail and makes a more pointed parallel due to better knowledge of German history: https://youtu.be/O8UzmLsXGRU
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:roll: Your continued use of this term cheapens it.
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Admiral X wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2019 4:19 am :roll: Your continued use of this term cheapens it.
Your refusal to call a spade a spade increases the odds they will follow the same arc as the German concentration camps.
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Draco Dracul wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2019 4:45 am
Admiral X wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2019 4:19 am :roll: Your continued use of this term cheapens it.
Your refusal to call a spade a spade increases the odds they will follow the same arc as the German concentration camps.
That's not happenning with the American Civic Tradition.

Calm down.
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Draco Dracul wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2019 4:45 am Your refusal to call a spade a spade increases the odds they will follow the same arc as the German concentration camps.
:roll: No, they won't.
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They already are.
For example.

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/07/a-u-s-citizen-has-been-in-immigration-custody-for-weeks.html

Edit: a more detailed account https://www.dallasnews.com/news/immigration/2019/07/24/no-shower-23-days-us-citizen-held-deportation-shares-like-immigrant
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That assumes that Trump will be in office long enough to turn it into literal murder and torture. This strikes me as bureaucratic incompetence born from racism. Less organized crime and more systematic decay with racism as the cracks in the broken glass. Not the glue binding it together.
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Trump’s platform was fairly explicitly this, solving a “crisis at the border” “only he could”. In the minds of his supporters, anything that means fewer “Mexicans” in “their country” is working and they mostly would quite like to not know the details.

The crisis was never about refugees or migrant workers. As trump’s language about Ocasio-Cortez, Omar, et al suggests, the problem was too many brown people existing without bowing and scraping to white people. “A nation has a right to enforce its borders” is rhetoric to deceive onlookers into thinking the situation is illegality, not racism. “How dare you call them concentration camps” is rhetoric to shame the concerned into silence and soothe the conscience of the moderates: why these aren’t concentration camps, we’d never do such a thing, could never happen here.
I am under no compulsion to indulge such nonsense. If we’re not explicit about the scale of what these are and how the surrounding conditions are all primed to escalate, we have no tools to reverse and dismantle the systems driving this forward.
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Yukaphile wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2019 10:24 am That assumes that Trump will be in office long enough to turn it into literal murder and torture. This strikes me as bureaucratic incompetence born from racism. Less organized crime and more systematic decay with racism as the cracks in the broken glass. Not the glue binding it together.
A year and a half is more than enough time for that to happen even without building gas chambers. An American citizen illegally held by ICE for just over three weeks lost 26 pound in that time. They can murder thousands simply by doing nothing, and they've done everything in their power to keep out the press and any investigation from the democrats.
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That's bureaucratic incompetence born from racism, not deliberate bureaucratic torture and murder born from racism. The feel-good far left purity-fueled emotionalism is what drove me into the center with views like that.
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