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clearspira wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2023 10:20 am

Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2023 9:31 pm

CharlesPhipps wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 5:28 am

Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:42 am

clearspira wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:28 pm BTW, you have a two party system. Your choice was Trump or Biden. Feeling sick for voting in Biden implies that you either had a third choice or that Trump would be doing something different. Do you think Trump would be doing something different right now? If anything, Putin would probably be knocking on Poland's door right about now and thus we would have two massively destabilised and blood-soaked places to think about as opposed to one and a half.

I don't think 45 would have been any better, but part of being a moral person means acknowledging the consequences of your choice, and I have to recognize that I still voted for a man who is playing cheerleader for Israel's campaign of ethnic cleansing. I have to live with that.

Eh, Biden is the only major Western leader calling for Israel and Egypt to allow humanitarian aid in and to dial down their attacks. While you may despise "middle path" politics, it might be about the only way to exert pressure from the inside.

It looks like a pretty milquetoast response to ethnic cleansing and war crimes.

I honestly don't understand why any Democrat is publicly supporting Israel. Like, I know what the Republicans get out of it. They want the Israel chess peices in place for their apocolypse fantasy. But what do the Democrats get out of kissing Israel's ass as if their careers depended on it?

I find it interesting how if you are on the Left then you MUST support Palestine, and if you are on the Right then you MUST support Israel. No True Scotsman fallacy at its finest.

Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2023 9:31 pm It looks like a pretty milquetoast response to ethnic cleansing and war crimes.

I honestly don't understand why any Democrat is publicly supporting Israel. Like, I know what the Republicans get out of it. They want the Israel chess peices in place for their apocolypse fantasy. But what do the Democrats get out of kissing Israel's ass as if their careers depended on it?

Madner Kami wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2023 1:11 pm Do they? That statement is ignoring a lot of history in the Levant, considering "the Jews" were a genocidal invading force in the Levant a couple thousand years ago and managed to become one again there relatively recently

CharlesPhipps wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2023 5:24 pm

Madner Kami wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2023 1:11 pm Do they? That statement is ignoring a lot of history in the Levant, considering "the Jews" were a genocidal invading force in the Levant a couple thousand years ago and managed to become one again there relatively recently

Seriously. WTF.

Madner Kami wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2023 7:35 pm
Could you be a bit more specific and elaborate on your disagreement, so I can adress your concern? It should've been obvious from context, that those lines were purposefully exaggerated/inflammatory, after all.

CharlesPhipps wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2023 9:52 pm

Madner Kami wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2023 7:35 pm
Could you be a bit more specific and elaborate on your disagreement, so I can adress your concern? It should've been obvious from context, that those lines were purposefully exaggerated/inflammatory, after all.

Ancestral crimes is fucked up to bring up in any context, even to make fun of.

phantom000 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 4:57 am ‘Children were carrying other injured children’: Witness describes aftermath of Israeli strike on Gaza refugee camp

https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/31/middleea ... -gaza-intl

This does not look good for the IDF, even if there were Hamas leaders in the camp why not use a special operations team? True civilians could still be killed in the crossfire but not nearly as many as with an airstrike.