Wile sometimes, I am pissed off by them, I have come to realize more and more how fucked up the police as an institution but the online left still takes the ACAB mentality way to far.Madner Kami wrote: ↑Mon Aug 08, 2022 9:37 pm No, it's not. We've been telling you since about 3,000 posts ago, that your perceptions are tilted and that you need to change your perspective on things. Do that and we'll not be annoyed anymore. Keep posting the same shit over and over again from your skewed perspective and you'll only get an increasing amount of hostility. It is your choice alone and you are walking into that knowing the outcomes.
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Well, sometimes, even the leftists I respect sound like the ones who scare me.Riedquat wrote: ↑Mon Aug 08, 2022 10:07 pmYep, that's human beings for you. Just stop lumping everyone in to those mental pigeonholes. Support the things they say you agree with, condemn those that you don't, and don't get confused when you agree with some people on some things and not with the same people on some other things. Don't pretend to yourself everything's really simple, or that it should be. And has others have said stop getting so fixated on certain issues and losing all sense of proportion.Dragon Ball Fan wrote: ↑Mon Aug 08, 2022 6:21 pmI know not all leftists are like that, there are certain ones I respect but the ones I'm talking about are doing the exact thing you are accusing me of.Riedquat wrote: ↑Mon Aug 08, 2022 6:18 pm You sound very much like you're stuck with trying to shove everyone in to a limited number of pigeonholes, and then claiming they're all the same because you've stuck them in that pigeonhole; thus you end up with "leftists" and "cop killers" all shoved in together, and pretend everyone in there are all the same.
It shouldn't take much to recognise that that's the sort of thinking that creates bigotry and hatred.
And as I said, I see more and more how bad policing is but the left still is too extreme on it, in general, from what I can see.
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Then fix the damn police and this "Left" has no leg to stand on anymore.Dragon Ball Fan wrote: ↑Mon Aug 08, 2022 10:07 pmWile sometimes, I am pissed off by them, I have come to realize more and more how fucked up the police as an institution but the online left still takes the ACAB mentality way to far.Madner Kami wrote: ↑Mon Aug 08, 2022 9:37 pm No, it's not. We've been telling you since about 3,000 posts ago, that your perceptions are tilted and that you need to change your perspective on things. Do that and we'll not be annoyed anymore. Keep posting the same shit over and over again from your skewed perspective and you'll only get an increasing amount of hostility. It is your choice alone and you are walking into that knowing the outcomes.
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It's clear some people just want to hate the police, so, fixing the police won't make the cop hate go away.Madner Kami wrote: ↑Mon Aug 08, 2022 10:18 pmThen fix the damn police and this "Left" has no leg to stand on anymore.Dragon Ball Fan wrote: ↑Mon Aug 08, 2022 10:07 pmWile sometimes, I am pissed off by them, I have come to realize more and more how fucked up the police as an institution but the online left still takes the ACAB mentality way to far.Madner Kami wrote: ↑Mon Aug 08, 2022 9:37 pm No, it's not. We've been telling you since about 3,000 posts ago, that your perceptions are tilted and that you need to change your perspective on things. Do that and we'll not be annoyed anymore. Keep posting the same shit over and over again from your skewed perspective and you'll only get an increasing amount of hostility. It is your choice alone and you are walking into that knowing the outcomes.
This is not to say no one should try to make things better but to me, no amount of social progress is enough until even the most innocuous form of prejudice is purged from the human condition, forever.
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If you have to waste people time DBF. Then call your congress man, that might actually do something as opposed making your the most hated Sfdebris fan.
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Nope, you're still being far too all-embracing with "the left", as if it's some uniform movement. Ditch the simple black and white pigeonholed thinking. Actually start listening to what people here are telling you (although most of them have given up long ago, I've only not because I hardly ever bother looking at this thread).Dragon Ball Fan wrote: ↑Mon Aug 08, 2022 10:13 pm
Well, sometimes, even the leftists I respect sound like the ones who scare me.
And as I said, I see more and more how bad policing is but the left still is too extreme on it, in general, from what I can see.
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So what? Police needs fixing anyways. Do that and shut up.Dragon Ball Fan wrote: ↑Mon Aug 08, 2022 10:39 pm It's clear some people just want to hate the police, so, fixing the police won't make the cop hate go away.
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Yes, some people. You'll always get a few arseholes. What you get a lot more of are people just looking for a bogeyman, a simple black and white pigeonholed blame group... now why does that sound familiar?Dragon Ball Fan wrote: ↑Mon Aug 08, 2022 10:39 pm It's clear some people just want to hate the police, so, fixing the police won't make the cop hate go away.
Please step back and think about just how bloody disturbing that sounds.This is not to say no one should try to make things better but to me, no amount of social progress is enough until even the most innocuous form of prejudice is purged from the human condition, forever.
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I'm trying not to lump all leftists together and I meant that those emotions should be purged from each and every individual, somehow.Riedquat wrote: ↑Mon Aug 08, 2022 11:23 pmYes, some people. You'll always get a few arseholes. What you get a lot more of are people just looking for a bogeyman, a simple black and white pigeonholed blame group... now why does that sound familiar?Dragon Ball Fan wrote: ↑Mon Aug 08, 2022 10:39 pm It's clear some people just want to hate the police, so, fixing the police won't make the cop hate go away.
Please step back and think about just how bloody disturbing that sounds.This is not to say no one should try to make things better but to me, no amount of social progress is enough until even the most innocuous form of prejudice is purged from the human condition, forever.
Like one of my childhood heroes, Optimus Prime said, "To destroy Unicron (who I am using as a metaphor for all of society's wows) we must first end hate in the universe."
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Honestly at this point I'm way more concerned about your mental health than the actual topic. Coming back to the same thing that stresses you out with the same words over and over isn't an argument, it's self-harm.
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