Gina Carano fired

[Makeshift Python]

I tried watching each of the DC shows. Honestly, they're all trash.

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

One thing I've hated about LF and the proponents to their agenda, if not DSWC entirely, is how they want to pander to fans. They want to make "fans" happy even as they insult them. Like the trash news articles online. Not really the official outlets, mind you, but every time we got criticism about fans, they have to put in all these blue checkmarks, "racist, misogynistic, homophobic" fans. Like, how do you know? Someone can criticize something and be as racist as you think, yet what makes them misogynistic past internal strawmans? This is what causes the Trump phenomenon. And until they realize that, it will never get better.

Yeah but take for instance your posts. Do you really find it misrepresenting?

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

I tried watching each of the DC shows. Honestly, they're all trash.

I think people find value in their stories. Underrated aspect of media.

[Captain Crimson]

One thing I've hated about LF and the proponents to their agenda, if not DSWC entirely, is how they want to pander to fans. They want to make "fans" happy even as they insult them. Like the trash news articles online. Not really the official outlets, mind you, but every time we got criticism about fans, they have to put in all these blue checkmarks, "racist, misogynistic, homophobic" fans. Like, how do you know? Someone can criticize something and be as racist as you think, yet what makes them misogynistic past internal strawmans? This is what causes the Trump phenomenon. And until they realize that, it will never get better.

Yeah but take for instance your posts. Do you really find it misrepresenting?

Not in particular, it's just one point of view. But putting in all these blue checkmarks is not sure to win over those in the middle. We've seen this time and time again. Everyone's tired of hyperpolarized politics, and so long as one group keeps playing the gender/race/LGBT card to shut down criticism, it won't stop. It's not like moderate right-wingers are istaphobes to everyone but the left hard-liners.

[BBally81]

One thing I've hated about LF and the proponents to their agenda, if not DSWC entirely, is how they want to pander to fans. They want to make "fans" happy even as they insult them. Like the trash news articles online. Not really the official outlets, mind you, but every time we got criticism about fans, they have to put in all these blue checkmarks, "racist, misogynistic, homophobic" fans. Like, how do you know? Someone can criticize something and be as racist as you think, yet what makes them misogynistic past internal strawmans? This is what causes the Trump phenomenon. And until they realize that, it will never get better.

And the far right would take advantage of that so they can push their agenda by attacking anything that seems slightly woke.

And then you have your typical outrage Youtuber like TheQuatering, MechaRandom or Clownfish who then complain anything being woke even if it's slightly or not that much at all or simply put a clickbaity title in order to attract viewers who eat that garbage up like how Clownfish recently did video talking about the Muppet Show is "censored" even though all Disney did is put a disclaimer, which is something a lot of networks around the world do for shows or movies if they have something that might be considered "problematic".

And then Youtubers with leftist stance complains about them and then the cycle repeats.

[Captain Crimson]

I've disagreed with Clownfish TV more than once, yet I don't think there's ill intention with the channel. And yet it's not like they present an alternative to the MSM they say they hate. Because what would truly be a superior alternative is presenting both sides in balance. But feeding the outrage machine always nabs views. Look at something like Mr. Walker's videos for Channel Awesome.

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

One thing I've hated about LF and the proponents to their agenda, if not DSWC entirely, is how they want to pander to fans. They want to make "fans" happy even as they insult them. Like the trash news articles online. Not really the official outlets, mind you, but every time we got criticism about fans, they have to put in all these blue checkmarks, "racist, misogynistic, homophobic" fans. Like, how do you know? Someone can criticize something and be as racist as you think, yet what makes them misogynistic past internal strawmans? This is what causes the Trump phenomenon. And until they realize that, it will never get better.

Yeah but take for instance your posts. Do you really find it misrepresenting?

Not in particular, it's just one point of view. But putting in all these blue checkmarks is not sure to win over those in the middle. We've seen this time and time again. Everyone's tired of hyperpolarized politics, and so long as one group keeps playing the gender/race/LGBT card to shut down criticism, it won't stop. It's not like moderate right-wingers are istaphobes to everyone but the left hard-liners.

Yeah but you make it sound like an orchestrated circuit of appeal. You're doing a very broad generalization, and it doesn't help that you tend to misrepresent and not understand what progressive principals or social interest groups are. Finally I think the public has run out of patience of "I see politics in show" as a political position which right activists tend to fall into. Transgender people are hardly the first group to take sensitively to symbolic language and we have to start all over with this shit with obtuse reactionary observations about progressive movements. It's not new or insightful to the moderate public like it was in 2010-14 with PC and then social media progressive culture, but just an incircle joke of generally right-wing or secular conservative people.

[BBally81]

I've disagreed with Clownfish TV more than once, yet I don't think there's ill intention with the channel. And yet it's not like they present an alternative to the MSM they say they hate. Because what would truly be a superior alternative is presenting both sides in balance. But feeding the outrage machine always nabs views. Look at something like Mr. Walker's videos for Channel Awesome.

I used to like Nostalgia Critic because I saw them as silly comedy reviews that weren't supposed to be taken 100% seriously (unlike people like Clownfish or theQuatering) and he would poke fun at both the SJW and Anti-SJWs but the problem is that his humor got stale and then the Change The Channel controversy happened so I stopped watching. The AVGN is better any way.

[Captain Crimson]

Fair point. Broad generalizations are the bread and butter of human existence. And yet that there's fans who are black, Hispanic, or women and even from the LGBT community who dislike DSWC debunks that it's racism, sexism, homophobia unless you want to call them that. How about how the DNC observes it's losing its iron grip on minorities? What do they do? They want to double down on efforts to reach POC. Maybe they should just focus on good policies, or in LF's and Hollywood's case, good products. But that's not the reality in many instances.

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=DSWC

https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=DNC+obse ... minorities

Disney is not inline with the DNC wtf are you even talking about? Again, you're not talking about the DNC's policies, you're talking about something it's doing. Like if I followed you on the sidewalk and talked about how you're not improving society. You'd say "wait a second, you're just looking at some random thing I'm doing and don't know what you're talking about." Or at least I hope you would.