Oluwatoyin ‘Toyin’ Salau, Missing Black Lives Matter Activist, Found Dead

[Darth Wedgius]

Self-defense is extrajudicial execution now? That's a good faith response, that is.

[Darth Wedgius]

Allegedly it was a "white power" badge. Is "black power" a call for black supremacy?

Wow, the good faith in this comment. The good faith here.

Oh no, how could I think a man with a "white power" badge was a white supremacist? That's so unfair of me!

You know what? I'm completely comfortable calling a man who wears a "White power" patch, joined a motorcycle gang that proudly displays the Nazi Eagle, called a black teenager n*****r, called a fellow police officer racial slurs, and has 20 use of force complaints against him "a violent white supremacist". If you're not, bully for you, ...

First, allegedly wore a patch every bit as bad as "black power." Also, I've addressed the guilt by association argument before. "Called a black teenager n****r" - suit dismissed. Etc., etc.

Are allegations automatically guilt now? or is that only for some races?

fuck off

Very logical. Very rational.

[GreyICE]

First, allegedly wore a patch every bit as bad as "black power."

Yes Darth, I'm extremely comfortable saying that they're different, and that people wearing "white power" patches are white supremacists.

I mean there's also all his other behavior, there's also his ongoing use of force problems, the fact that protests against his racism stretch back decades, that he's literally been a lightning rod for controversy, but y'know what? Even if the only thing was just wearing "White Power" patch, that'd be enough.

Now, as to your latest lie:

Also, I've addressed the guilt by association argument before. "Called a black teenager n****r" - suit dismissed. Etc., etc.

"Suit settled for over $800k" doesn't sound as good, does it?

The case was dismissed in May 2009 after it was settled out of court for over $800,000, Klassen said. He did not have the exact amount of the settlement available and was away from his office due to the unrest in Minneapolis.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/01/us/minneapolis-police-chief-sued-department-2007-trnd/index.html

It's so funny to watch you try this shit, because if you just put in the research then your lies become so transparent.

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

You have a lot more determination and patience than I do, Grey. I gave up on dealing with that particular bad actor a long time ago.

[Darth Wedgius]

First, allegedly wore a patch every bit as bad as "black power."

Yes Darth, I'm extremely comfortable saying that they're different, and that people wearing "white power" patches are white supremacists.

Well, your racism in this matter is hardly surprising.

Now, as to your latest lie:

Also, I've addressed the guilt by association argument before. "Called a black teenager n****r" - suit dismissed. Etc., etc.

"Suit settled for over $800k" doesn't sound as good, does it?

The case was dismissed in May 2009 after it was settled out of court for over $800,000, Klassen said. He did not have the exact amount of the settlement available and was away from his office due to the unrest in Minneapolis.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/01/us/minneapolis-police-chief-sued-department-2007-trnd/index.html

It's so funny to watch you try this shit, because if you just put in the research then your lies become so transparent.

Wrong lawsuit.

You really are special, aren't you?

[GreyICE]

Oh my you were referencing a DIFFERENT time Bob Kroll was sued for racist behavior? My bad. I admit it's happened so often they do kind of blur together. So which time Bob Kroll was sued were you referencing? It's clearly not the time he wore a White Power patch and said the n-word, you apparently don't like that one. So which one is it? There's quite a few to pick from.

By the way, just for reference, you are standing behind "White Power"? Nothing racist about it?

[Darth Wedgius]

Thank you for being honest.

I'm saying "white power" and "black power" are equivalent. If one isn't racist, the other isn't.

I included the case I was referencing when I said he was acquitted. Look it up.

[GreyICE]

I'm saying "white power" and "black power" are equivalent. If one isn't racist, the other isn't.

Why am I not shocked at all to see you roll out the white supremacist arguments? That one is an old one, straight out of Stormfront. Not surprised to see you bring it up, you do strike me as the Stormfront type. Haven't even updated your rhetoric in twenty years. Any time you're confronted with evidence of racism, turn it back and try to equate it to something else. "Oh, he's a member of the KKK? Well, would you be okay with him if he was a member of the ACLU?" "Oh, he said the n-word? Well black people do that, are they racist?" Stormfront, never fucking changes, because those fucks are too damn stupid to.

Of course it's as laughable now as it is 20 years ago. "Black Power" is demanding power to a group that is powerless. 95% of all Fortune 500 CEOs are white. 75% of all executives are white men. 78% of congress is white. 44 out of 45 presidents have been white men.

White people, especially white men, have historically had the most power in America, by leaps and bounds. So "White Power" is a demand that they hold on to this power, that they use oppression and violence to maintain this stranglehold they have on power. It is a demand for repression, injustice, and violence to continue holding the power in society.

But hey, thanks for busting out the old Stormfront cherries Darth. Really takes me back. Now go crawl back to your hole you miserable piece of cow shit. Don Black probably needs someone to help him change his diapers.

[Darth Wedgius]

I'm saying "white power" and "black power" are equivalent. If one isn't racist, the other isn't.

Why am I not shocked at all to see you roll out the white supremacist arguments? That one is an old one, straight out of Stormfront. Not surprised to see you bring it up, you do strike me as the Stormfront type. Haven't even updated your rhetoric in twenty years. Any time you're confronted with evidence of racism, turn it back and try to equate it to something else. "Oh, he's a member of the KKK? Well, would you be okay with him if he was a member of the ACLU?" "Oh, he said the n-word? Well black people do that, are they racist?" Stormfront, never fucking changes, because those fucks are too damn stupid to.

Of course it's as laughable now as it is 20 years ago. "Black Power" is demanding power to a group that is powerless. 95% of all Fortune 500 CEOs are white. 75% of all executives are white men. 78% of congress is white. 44 out of 45 presidents have been white men.

White people, especially white men, have historically had the most power in America, by leaps and bounds. So "White Power" is a demand that they hold on to this power, that they use oppression and violence to maintain this stranglehold they have on power. It is a demand for repression, injustice, and violence to continue holding the power in society.

But hey, thanks for busting out the old Stormfront cherries Darth. Really takes me back. Now go crawl back to your hole you miserable piece of cow shit. Don Black probably needs someone to help him change his diapers.

This is the genetic fallacy, also known as the fallacy of origins or the fallacy of virtue.

If Adolf Hitler said that smoking was bad and I say that smoking is bad, that does not make me Adolf Hitler.

Once again, you want to divide people up by skin color, as if the size and distribution of melanocytes was all that important. Better men than you have resisted that lure:

The Black Power slogan was also criticized by Martin Luther King Jr., who stated that the black power movement "connotates black supremacy and an anti-white feeling that does not or should not prevail." The National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP) also disapproved of Black Power, particularly Roy Wilkins, then the NAACP's executive director, who stated that Black Power was "a reverse Hitler, a reverse Ku Klux Klan...the father of hate and mother of violence." The Black Power slogan was also met with opposition from the leadership of SCLC and the Urban League.

- Wikipedia

In the off chance that your error is one of blindness rather than dishonesty, you may learn that those meanings of "white power" and "black power" are how you interpret them. For some people, white power does indeed mean racial supremacy. But not for everybody. There are more ways of viewing the world than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

[GreyICE]

This is the genetic fallacy, also known as the fallacy of origins or the fallacy of virtue.

Oh give it a rest, Darth. You're never going to sell anyone that "White Power" isn't racist. No amount of spamming "fallacies" to insist otherwise will ever fix that. That's just the fallacist's fallacy.

I called Bob Kroll a white supremacist because Bob Kroll is a white supremacist. Get over it.