FL Governer strips disney of self-governing status

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hammerofglass wrote: Tue Apr 12, 2022 1:53 am One of the Disney heirs is a gay trans teacher.

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Somehow, I doubt the company will be backing down soon. The PR hit when they bank so much on Walt's legacy would be terrible.
I would be very surprised if the Disney Corporation gives two shits about the Disney family. I would like to remind you too that these are the same people who decorate their Twitter feed with rainbow flags and make a big deal out of diversity in its films... and then go right on to shamelessly edit out every LGBT reference for its foreign releases.

What Disney Corp. cares about is money. Being pro-LGBT in America gets money - so that's what they do. Being anti-LGBT in China and Russia gets them money - so that's what they do.
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Exactly. They are totally mercenary. If they thought they would gain more from calling for the extermination of any or all minority groups, they'd do that. Their sole guiding principle is getting money.
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clearspira wrote: Tue Apr 12, 2022 8:43 pm
hammerofglass wrote: Tue Apr 12, 2022 1:53 am One of the Disney heirs is a gay trans teacher.

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2 ... nt-500-000

Somehow, I doubt the company will be backing down soon. The PR hit when they bank so much on Walt's legacy would be terrible.
I would be very surprised if the Disney Corporation gives two shits about the Disney family. I would like to remind you too that these are the same people who decorate their Twitter feed with rainbow flags and make a big deal out of diversity in its films... and then go right on to shamelessly edit out every LGBT reference for its foreign releases.

What Disney Corp. cares about is money. Being pro-LGBT in America gets money - so that's what they do. Being anti-LGBT in China and Russia gets them money - so that's what they do.
In practical terms? Of course they don't care. The Disney family aren't even in the top 5 shareholders. Freaking Murdoch owns more of the company than the Disney family does combined.

In marketing terms though, they have this whole creepy cult of personality around the Disney dynasty going on. And they can tell which way the political wind is blowing. This is going to be billions of dollars of free advertising dropped in their laps by the Conservative media machine.
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Well now it's happened, and apparently it's going to cost people in Orange County a bunch of money.
Scott Randolph, Orange County’s tax collector, estimated absorbing Reedy Creek’s liabilities could cost property owners an extra $200 to $250 a year in property taxes. That’s a rough estimate, though, based on Reedy Creek Improvement District’s financial statement and the assumption Orange County absorbs Reedy Creek’s liabilities.

Reedy Creek collects about $164 million in property taxes to maintain roads, utilities and other services, which is almost entirely paid by Disney.

If Reedy Creek were dissolved, no other governmental entity would have the authority to collect that money, Randolph said.

“There is no windfall to the county,” Randolph said. “There could be a ton of expenses with no additional revenue to cover it.”

Disney would continue to pay property taxes to Orange and Osceola counties, school districts and other entities as it has in the past. Reedy Creek enables Disney to avoid some other taxes, such as impact fees and sales tax on construction materials.

Governing Disney World and maintaining its surrounding property is a massive undertaking. Reedy Creek maintains 134 miles of roads and 67 miles of waterways, according to the district’s statistics. It handles 60,000 tons of waste and recycles 30 tons of aluminum, paper, steel cans, cardboard and plastic containers each year.

The district hosts 250,000 daily guests, which is more than the 196,000 people who live in Tallahassee, the state capital. With 77,000 pre-pandemic employees, Disney World is one of the largest single-site employers in the United States.

Sen. Jeff Brandes, R-St. Petersburg, questioned whether the Legislature’s effort would inadvertently help Disney financially.

“The assets include roads, which we would be unlikely to shut off,” he said. “A dump. A power plant, which we would be unlikely to turn off. A fire station, which we would be unlikely to shut down. So those assets, we would now take over the operations, the maintenance and support of, and Disney would be able to walk away from that ... debt.”
It's also going to cause problems with the bond market too.
Settling with bondholders could be another complicated matter, and investors have been mystified by what is happening in Florida, said Eric Kazatsky, a senior strategist for Bloomberg Intelligence specializing in municipal bonds.

Florida’s bond documents include a covenant — a commitment to investors — that the state will not “limit or alter” the rights of Reedy Creek to collect revenue, including levying taxes. Kazatsky said he’s spoken with investors and others in the bond market who are puzzled by what is happening in Florida.

“It’s a lot of head-scratching, and are they even allowed to do this?” he said. “It seems like they have a legal hurdle here. They have covenanted to do something.”
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I feel sorry for the locals, but I cannot muster a single bit of sympathy for Disney.
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Under Florida law dissolving a special district created by the legislature requires a majority vote by the landowners in the district. Disney own all of the land, and all of the legal residents are people Disney pays to stay on the property to rubber stamp things the district does. This bill does effectively nothing, but lawyers on both sides are going to be collecting a paycheck over it for years.

It makes great cover for the blatant gerrymandering job they did to steal two House seats the same session, though.
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hammerofglass wrote: Fri Apr 22, 2022 7:53 pm Under Florida law dissolving a special district created by the legislature requires a majority vote by the landowners in the district. Disney own all of the land, and all of the legal residents are people Disney pays to stay on the property to rubber stamp things the district does. This bill does effectively nothing, but lawyers on both sides are going to be collecting a paycheck over it for years.

It makes great cover for the blatant gerrymandering job they did to steal two House seats the same session, though.
My gut is telling me that there is a loophole in that because everything has a loophole. ''Playing by the rules'' is what the poor does. The rich have high-priced lawyers who know the people who write the laws in the first place.
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clearspira wrote: Fri Apr 22, 2022 10:01 pm
hammerofglass wrote: Fri Apr 22, 2022 7:53 pm Under Florida law dissolving a special district created by the legislature requires a majority vote by the landowners in the district. Disney own all of the land, and all of the legal residents are people Disney pays to stay on the property to rubber stamp things the district does. This bill does effectively nothing, but lawyers on both sides are going to be collecting a paycheck over it for years.

It makes great cover for the blatant gerrymandering job they did to steal two House seats the same session, though.
My gut is telling me that there is a loophole in that because everything has a loophole. ''Playing by the rules'' is what the poor does. The rich have high-priced lawyers who know the people who write the laws in the first place.
Forcing through blatantly illegal laws that get overturned almost immediately but after he collects his Culture War points is a basic Republican strategy. DeSantis himself has done it a few times. Even if it somehow isn't stopped the bill as written wont kick in until after the election, so he has no reason to care what happens now.
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Frustration wrote: Fri Apr 22, 2022 7:50 pm Walk with a crutch long enough, and your leg atrophies.
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