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I don't. I defend the human rights of Palestinians whom Israel is exterminating. Like Chuck said, you don't automatically become the good guys by opposing the bad guys. You become the good guys by trying not to do evil things. Hamas and Israel are both doing a lot of evil things.BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2023 3:35 amSo why do you defend them when arguing with clearspira?
The Israeli Military don't seem to be making much of a distinction between Hamas and the Palestinian people. Which is why I say 'Israel is flirting with fascism.' Whether they have crossed the line is open to debate, I think it's clear they are getting close.Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2023 8:37 pmI don't. I defend the human rights of Palestinians whom Israel is exterminating. Like Chuck said, you don't automatically become the good guys by opposing the bad guys. You become the good guys by trying not to do evil things. Hamas and Israel are both doing a lot of evil things.BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2023 3:35 amSo why do you defend them when arguing with clearspira?
No political ideology is good or bad, it is merely how it is applied. Just as the gun is not automatically good or bad. In the right hands it is a tool of defence or liberation, in the wrong hands, it is the devil's right hand, used to oppress, to cause pain, to dominate.phantom000 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2023 9:54 pmThe Israeli Military don't seem to be making much of a distinction between Hamas and the Palestinian people. Which is why I say 'Israel is flirting with fascism.' Whether they have crossed the line is open to debate, I think it's clear they are getting close.Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2023 8:37 pmI don't. I defend the human rights of Palestinians whom Israel is exterminating. Like Chuck said, you don't automatically become the good guys by opposing the bad guys. You become the good guys by trying not to do evil things. Hamas and Israel are both doing a lot of evil things.BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2023 3:35 amSo why do you defend them when arguing with clearspira?
clearspira wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2023 9:05 pmNo political ideology is good or bad, it is merely how it is applied. Just as the gun is not automatically good or bad. In the right hands it is a tool of defence or liberation, in the wrong hands, it is the devil's right hand, used to oppress, to cause pain, to dominate.phantom000 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2023 9:54 pmThe Israeli Military don't seem to be making much of a distinction between Hamas and the Palestinian people. Which is why I say 'Israel is flirting with fascism.' Whether they have crossed the line is open to debate, I think it's clear they are getting close.Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2023 8:37 pmI don't. I defend the human rights of Palestinians whom Israel is exterminating. Like Chuck said, you don't automatically become the good guys by opposing the bad guys. You become the good guys by trying not to do evil things. Hamas and Israel are both doing a lot of evil things.BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2023 3:35 amSo why do you defend them when arguing with clearspira?
To "flirt with fascism" is not automatically a bad thing. In fact, I would argue that a completely benevolent man with 100% of the power would create a better country for you and your family to live in than a democratic one that you have voted in that is full of incompetent tosspots. Surely "flirting with Donald Trump" should have demonstrated this.
Ultimately the problem with fascism is that there are no checks and balances on who comes next. An Augustus can become a Nero very quickly indeed.
TL;DR, what you meant to say here is, "Israel is flirting with negative fascism" and to that I agree. Israel has decided to drop an atom bomb upon the moral high ground by ending that ceasefire so quickly. I am not blind to this.
Speaking of Trump, I think Israel is going to be an anchor around Biden's neck at the next election. An objective analysis of this situation has led me to conclude Biden has let Israel get away with ten times more shit than Russia did with Ukraine before he sanctioned the former. There are double standards here. Biden is not a racist and i am not going to call him one... but nevertheless it does look bad that a country full of white people gets more sympathy from him than a country full of people with darker skin.
There are no good guys in this fightFuzzy Necromancer wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2023 8:37 pmI don't. I defend the human rights of Palestinians whom Israel is exterminating. Like Chuck said, you don't automatically become the good guys by opposing the bad guys. You become the good guys by trying not to do evil things. Hamas and Israel are both doing a lot of evil things.BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2023 3:35 amSo why do you defend them when arguing with clearspira?
Those children? Bad guys.
Yes it is. What the fuck, dude?clearspira wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2023 9:05 pm
To "flirt with fascism" is not automatically a bad thing.