Remember how the Mainstream Media said they won't be coming for Jefferson and Washington Next?

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Re: Remember how the Mainstream Media said they won't be coming for Jefferson and Washington Next?

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Antiboyscout wrote: Sun Jun 21, 2020 5:44 am What in the hell are you talking about? They Started in academia. Dozens of professors have been removed from universities for not going along with the progressive zeitgeist and their papers censored or buried along with them.
https://www.thecollegefix.com/scientist-chased-out-of-evergreen-state-thumbs-nose-at-shutdownstem-day-with-live-podcast/
#shutdownSTEM #decolonizemath

And plz stop pretending that the Democratic party isn't stoking this fire.
The idea that the democratic party, who is nominating boringly competent and extremely moderate Joe Biden as their presidential candidate is in some way stoking any sort of fire is fucking laughable. The Democratic party pussy foot around at best, there are maybe a handful of actual fire brands in their ranks and in any other country with proportional representation or ranked voting they would be their own Labor/Progressive party.

Also, what the hell is this source? "The College Fix"? Cherry picking nonsense.
You have to have more meaningful examples than one from 2017 that has been the guy's one claim to fame since then to illustrate a pattern. For crying out loud, the incident they are pointing to is only meaningful because he turned it into a persecution complex to market himself as some kind of rebel intellectual.
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G-Man wrote: Sun Jun 21, 2020 7:35 pm
ProfessorDetective wrote: Sat Jun 20, 2020 9:04 pmOh, and, genuinely curious, how would The Left 'replace America'? And with what? And can you define 'America' in terms of what would be replaced?
Replace the people, replace the view of its history, replace its political philosophy. America is a people, a history that those people lived in, and a culture that derives from that people and their history.

Oh, and their goal is to replace it with "The Third-World ShitHole Formerly Known as the United States."
Yeah, he is asking for specifics.
See, when people say things like "replace the people" it screams of the "Great Replacement" conspiracy theory about how the Jews are trying to import minorities to weaken white bloodlines... for some reason.
And when it comes to "Replace the view of its history" you do realize that if the current view of history is a lie, purported by white nationalists to maintain power and gloss over the myriad of crimes committed by the country over the century, changing that view is not a bad thing.

I also don't know what "Political Philosophy" you are referring to as being replaced. As I will tell you from a strictly historical perspective there have been active changes and calls for much more robust and dramatic changes to the United States' system of government since they decided to have one.
I don't know what you think the dominant political philosophy of the US is, and I don't know what you think it is being transformed into. I don't even know if you can list specifics of what you think is indispensable or what is morally/functionally superior and are afraid of losing.
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Rocketboy1313 wrote: Tue Jun 23, 2020 12:55 pm
Antiboyscout wrote: Sun Jun 21, 2020 5:44 am What in the hell are you talking about? They Started in academia. Dozens of professors have been removed from universities for not going along with the progressive zeitgeist and their papers censored or buried along with them.
https://www.thecollegefix.com/scientist-chased-out-of-evergreen-state-thumbs-nose-at-shutdownstem-day-with-live-podcast/
#shutdownSTEM #decolonizemath

And plz stop pretending that the Democratic party isn't stoking this fire.
The idea that the democratic party, who is nominating boringly competent and extremely moderate Joe Biden as their presidential candidate is in some way stoking any sort of fire is fucking laughable. The Democratic party pussy foot around at best, there are maybe a handful of actual fire brands in their ranks and in any other country with proportional representation or ranked voting they would be their own Labor/Progressive party.
I take issue with "competent" but otherwise agree.
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it's just that there is such a black and white view of people in the past. "The Founding Fathers had slaves, they MUST have been monsters!" it couldn't be that they were against slavery but abolitionism wasn't a big enough movement yet and/or didn't free their own slaves because they were worried what would happen to them afterwards, could it?

and for Andrew Jackson, wile it WAS horrible, I'm not debating that, we can't call the Trail of Tears genocide unless it was intentional.
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Dragon Ball Fan wrote: Tue Jun 23, 2020 3:12 pm and for Andrew Jackson, wile it WAS horrible, I'm not debating that, we can't call the Trail of Tears genocide unless it was intentional.
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TGLS wrote: Tue Jun 23, 2020 3:51 pm
Dragon Ball Fan wrote: Tue Jun 23, 2020 3:12 pm and for Andrew Jackson, wile it WAS horrible, I'm not debating that, we can't call the Trail of Tears genocide unless it was intentional.
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that's how the United Nation defines genocide and they are the ultimate authority on this kind of thing.
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Dragon Ball Fan wrote: Tue Jun 23, 2020 3:59 pm
TGLS wrote: Tue Jun 23, 2020 3:51 pm
Dragon Ball Fan wrote: Tue Jun 23, 2020 3:12 pm and for Andrew Jackson, wile it WAS horrible, I'm not debating that, we can't call the Trail of Tears genocide unless it was intentional.
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that's how the United Nation defines genocide and they are the ultimate authority on this kind of thing.
Which part of the mass relocation of an indigenous population... a population that was ultimately harried, relocated, and murdered across the continent... Not intentional?

Also, what the hell are you on about with the UN?
The Trail of Tears is textbook genocide.
https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/genocide.shtml
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Rocketboy1313 wrote: Tue Jun 23, 2020 4:08 pm
Dragon Ball Fan wrote: Tue Jun 23, 2020 3:59 pm
TGLS wrote: Tue Jun 23, 2020 3:51 pm
Dragon Ball Fan wrote: Tue Jun 23, 2020 3:12 pm and for Andrew Jackson, wile it WAS horrible, I'm not debating that, we can't call the Trail of Tears genocide unless it was intentional.
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that's how the United Nation defines genocide and they are the ultimate authority on this kind of thing.
Which part of the mass relocation of an indigenous population... a population that was ultimately harried, relocated, and murdered across the continent... Not intentional?

Also, what the hell are you on about with the UN?
The Trail of Tears is textbook genocide.
https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/genocide.shtml
I didn't realize someone actually has classed it as genocide, I guess I took too seriously the clam that Jackson only did it to prevent a civil war.

but until I have evidence otherwise, my point about the Founding Fathers still stands.
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Interesting to note:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trail_of_Tears#Jackson's_role

Andrew Jackson's support for removal of Native Americans began at least a decade before his presidency.[17] Indian removal was Jackson's top legislative priority upon taking office.[18]
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Rocketboy1313 wrote: Tue Jun 23, 2020 12:55 pm
Antiboyscout wrote: Sun Jun 21, 2020 5:44 am What in the hell are you talking about? They Started in academia. Dozens of professors have been removed from universities for not going along with the progressive zeitgeist and their papers censored or buried along with them.
https://www.thecollegefix.com/scientist-chased-out-of-evergreen-state-thumbs-nose-at-shutdownstem-day-with-live-podcast/
#shutdownSTEM #decolonizemath

And plz stop pretending that the Democratic party isn't stoking this fire.
The idea that the democratic party, who is nominating boringly competent and extremely moderate Joe Biden as their presidential candidate is in some way stoking any sort of fire is fucking laughable. The Democratic party pussy foot around at best, there are maybe a handful of actual fire brands in their ranks and in any other country with proportional representation or ranked voting they would be their own Labor/Progressive party.

Also, what the hell is this source? "The College Fix"? Cherry picking nonsense.
You have to have more meaningful examples than one from 2017 that has been the guy's one claim to fame since then to illustrate a pattern. For crying out loud, the incident they are pointing to is only meaningful because he turned it into a persecution complex to market himself as some kind of rebel intellectual.
They tried to bait Trump into sending the army in to stop the riots (the ones the democrats pretend aren't happening are are merely peaceful protests) so they can call him Hitler but with visuals this time.
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It didn't work:
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I mention Evergreen College as it was very high profile, but if you're going to ignore the dozens potentially hundreds of articles on The College Fix as individual cherries picked instead of part of a bunch, then that's your prerogative. Doesn't disprove my claim tho.

also nice of you to ignore the #shutdownSTEM and #decolonizemath movements. Those a bit too spicy for you?
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