None of the police who murdered a girl in her sleep will be charged with a crime

[Makeshift Python]

And now there's this shit:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/09/27/ballistics-report-breonna-taylor-boyfriend-kenneth-walker-shot-louisville-cop/3554995001/

Ballistics report doesn't support Kentucky AG's claim that Breonna Taylor's boyfriend shot cop

LOUISVILLE, Ky. – A Kentucky State Police ballistics report does not support state Attorney General Daniel Cameron’s assertion that Breonna Taylor’s boyfriend, Kenneth Walker, shot a police officer the night she was killed.

Cameron said Wednesday the investigation of Taylor’s death March 13 ruled out “friendly fire” from officer Brett Hankison as the source of the shot that went through Sgt. Jonathan Mattingly’s thigh, prompting him and officer Myles Cosgrove to return fire, killing Taylor.

The KSP report says that “due to limited markings of comparative value,” the 9mm bullet that hit and exited Mattingly was neither “identified nor eliminated as having been fired” from Walker’s gun.

Cameron said Hankison had been eliminated as the shooter because the three officers carried .40-caliber handguns, while Walker had a 9.

Wednesday night on CNN, Steven Romines, one of Walker’s attorneys, said he obtained a Louisville Metro Police Department record showing Hankison had been issued a 9mm weapon as well.

Romines declined to share the record from Hankison’s personnel file with The Louisville Courier Journal, and LMPD spokeswoman Jessie Halladay said she could release it only in response to an open records request.

The Courier Journal, part of the USA TODAY Network, filed one, but the department hasn’t responded.

Another attorney for Walker, Rob Eggert, provided the ballistic report, which was first reported by Vice.

Walker said he fired a single warning shot from his Glock handgun at Taylor’s apartment because he thought intruders were breaking in. Police said they had identified themselves. They were attempting to serve a "no-knock" search warrant shortly before 1 a.m. March 13 at Taylor's home as part of a narcotics investigation.

Cameron announced Mattingly and Cosgrove were not charged with any crime because they had a right to defend themselves. Hankison, who was fired in June, was charged with three counts of wantonly endangering Taylor’s neighbors by firing shots that entered their apartment.

He was not charged with endangering Taylor.

Cameron declined to explain that discrepancy or respond to 13 other questions about the case submitted by The Courier Journal. His spokeswoman said Saturday that the office was not scheduling interviews and couldn’t talk about the grand jury proceedings because of secrecy rules governing them.

ameron said last week that Mattingly fired six shots, Cosgrove 16 and Hankison 10, and Taylor was hit six times.

He said FBI ballistic examiners concluded Cosgrove fired the shot that killed Taylor, but KSP couldn't determine whether Cosgrove or Mattingly fired that bullet.

The shot hit Taylor's pulmonary artery, killing her within minutes.

The city of Louisville paid $12 million to settle a wrongful death suit filed by Taylor’s estate and agreed to make numerous changes in Police Department policies and procedures.

[Madner Kami]

Ballistics report doesn't support Kentucky AG's claim that Breonna Taylor's boyfriend shot cop

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Walker said he fired a single warning shot from his Glock handgun at Taylor’s apartment because he thought intruders were breaking in.

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I'm sorry, what? I thought Walker was inside Taylor's apartment, if not the same bed, when the incident happened, being her boyfriend and all? I'm having severe trouble following the narrative of the article.

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

Turns out, the jury weren't told they could charge the police with murder.

[Captain Crimson]

I hate to be that guy, but seriously... they been trying to create fairness, justice, ethics, and morality in the human species for six thousands years of history now, and they haven't been able to do it yet. You're never going to get perfect justice, which is an abstract ideal, as sin is a fairly pedestrian part of the human experience and few people in this life ever get what they truly deserve, in interactions off others and in their personal lives. We should live in a world where this s*** gets a swift response, one of appropriate and fair punishment, loss of liberty or life, and nothing past it, but we don't live in that world, do we? This is an exercise in futility and the path to madness before one's time.

[Makeshift Python]

I hate to be that guy, but seriously... they been trying to create fairness, justice, ethics, and morality in the human species for six thousands years of history now, and they haven't been able to do it yet. You're never going to get perfect justice, which is an abstract ideal, as sin is a fairly pedestrian part of the human experience and few people in this life ever get what they truly deserve, in interactions off others and in their personal lives. We should live in a world where this s*** gets a swift response, one of appropriate and fair punishment, loss of liberty or life, and nothing past it, but we don't live in that world, do we? This is an exercise in futility and the path to madness before one's time.

Striving to make things better even if we can never make it perfect is better than just throwing one's hands up and saying "it's futile".

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

I hate to be that guy, but seriously... they been trying to create fairness, justice, ethics, and morality in the human species for six thousands years of history now, and they haven't been able to do it yet. You're never going to get perfect justice, which is an abstract ideal, as sin is a fairly pedestrian part of the human experience and few people in this life ever get what they truly deserve, in interactions off others and in their personal lives. We should live in a world where this s*** gets a swift response, one of appropriate and fair punishment, loss of liberty or life, and nothing past it, but we don't live in that world, do we? This is an exercise in futility and the path to madness before one's time.

You're saying that because we can't get perfect justice, we shouldn't even try to prosecute people that everyone knows murdered a sleeping woman in her own home.

With apologies to Mulaney Senior, you have the moral backbone of a chocolate eclair.

[CharlesPhipps]

I hate to be that guy, but seriously... they been trying to create fairness, justice, ethics, and morality in the human species for six thousands years of history now, and they haven't been able to do it yet. You're never going to get perfect justice, which is an abstract ideal, as sin is a fairly pedestrian part of the human experience and few people in this life ever get what they truly deserve, in interactions off others and in their personal lives. We should live in a world where this s*** gets a swift response, one of appropriate and fair punishment, loss of liberty or life, and nothing past it, but we don't live in that world, do we? This is an exercise in futility and the path to madness before one's time.

And the results have been....actually making progress to universal rights and fairness for people.

So...yes, let's keep going.

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

I hate to be that guy, but seriously... they been trying to create fairness, justice, ethics, and morality in the human species for six thousands years of history now, and they haven't been able to do it yet. You're never going to get perfect justice, which is an abstract ideal, as sin is a fairly pedestrian part of the human experience and few people in this life ever get what they truly deserve, in interactions off others and in their personal lives. We should live in a world where this s*** gets a swift response, one of appropriate and fair punishment, loss of liberty or life, and nothing past it, but we don't live in that world, do we? This is an exercise in futility and the path to madness before one's time.

wut no.

We should live in a society that deters crimes, and that's about as far as you can take that. There's nothing ideal about equivocal or capital punishment.

[Captain Crimson]

Striving for a more perfect future in some cases must mean that we require hard, direct, even painful actions, sacrifices, right now in the present most do NOT want to put in as human beings are built on the need for instant gratification, and little else, while flocking to authority.

I'm tired of the left's narrative on police and the right's narrative on rioters. This helps no one. And what is really a stupid, BS death is being used as more fodder in the war of left vs. right. As it was with Mr. George Floyd.

Refer back to the '60s with Mr. MLK teaching his disciples on how to take a punch. That's a lot harder, but it yields better results in the long-term. Now look at the protesters we got today. If there is such an occurrence of outside agitators that are turning them into riots, then all you're doing in the end is contributing to Mr. 45's Law & Order rhetoric that is going to help him get reelected. Many Americans are deeply unhappy on the severe unrest in these cities, and this is making them ever more turbulent. An avowed socialist like Mr. Sanders stumping for Mr. Biden is going to connect him to a perceived far left position and these riots whether he likes it or not, as Mr. Sanders' ilk thrives in this environment. The revolution he dreams of hasn't materialized yet, and we don't want said revolution in this country if you look at the history of Germany, Russia, our own roots. I know left and right will deny their side had a hand in this all day, the right thinks it's ALL violent leftists, the left believes cops are ALL thugs attacking purely unarmed people and nothing beyond that, and round and round we go on that merry-go-round that never ends. This is why we get trapped in cycles.

Protesting is just a knee-jerk reaction that does nothing, but in today's world, leaves you extra more vulnerable to the jungle out there. Disease, shootings, arson... all as a normal progression of how far the pendulum has swung over the last two decades, so I can sympathize to the sentiment of being fed up. Most of us are. Yet even normal assemblies starting out professional are drawing in chaos-lunatics who want to stir up the hatred and I could see motives from both left and right, TBH. It could even be orders from someone connected to the highest echelons of government, like Mr. 45. It's probably a bit of all. I don't watch the clown-show that cable news is with its talking-head punditry. But I do feel at this stage it will honestly help the election results far more, if Mr. 45 truly is the line we can't uncross as so many leftists insists, to learn to metaphorically kick back and take a blow. Since there should be no doubts that Mr. Biden would be marginally better than Mr. 45. And to such an end, this will require staying home, especially during a pandemic. It nets a better result further down the line; in this case, November, when all this insanity started in June. It's not that far to wait, and I fear too much damage has been done to the public perception now. This is how many hard right-wingers gain their mistaken impression lefties are selfish. One unarmed man's death has become the rallying cry to jihad, and this news adds to that. THIS IS NOT THE TIME FOR RACIAL JUSTICE. This is NOT the time to tear down law enforcement. Economy and virus control is the most important aspects if the system is not to collapse and we are to stop Mr. 45.

But then that is part of the larger problem here. Many of these left-leaning protesters truly don't want Mr. Biden, do they? The equivalency appears to put him as almost as bad as, on par with, or surpassing Mr. 45 in terms of skeletons in the closet. Mr. MLK was eloquent, as were many men and movement leaders of his ilk back in the olden days, who would more forcefully encourage turning the other cheek, taking a punch, and calming down chaos with their words. We don't gots people like that anymore. Mr. Biden is not the one to inspire that way, so even calls to stop the violence or regulate it are not going to help. Especially in the age of the internet, so that we still see it happen regardless of calls for calm. Think about it, really. To stay at home will decrease the chance of left or right outside forces turning these protests into riots serving as political fodder, because it is going to have a major push back from the other side. That's why the right generally wins. They play ahead while leftists are self-sabotaging. And I get the sinking sensation many just want the system to collapse. Certainly the further into the left political spectrum you go, like with the right, the more extreme you get. Some could even want him to stay in power, as Mr. 45 further collapses the system.

This is not organizing, this doesn't get anything done, during a pandemic, this is literally just making yourself feel better at the potential expense of a greater good. If Mr. 45 wins, as seems likely, don't blame it entirely on him, as he was just exploiting the unrest already there that short-sighted people were exacerbating into something worse. If people are gonna use the talking points that the citizens in Germany and Russia contributed to the very dictatorships that hurt them, then why can't the same apply here?

Do you think you'll get racial justice or police reform by opening yourself up to people who will turn this into a mob war on the streets? Because there is always that possibility in an increasingly radicalized America.

I generally don't want to get drawn into such insanity, but then look at where we are for months now. I think I'm getting fed up with the right and left's strawmans of the other side and hyperpartisanship. Especially since I did not want to vote, but alas... and if I've been drawn into this little battle, then I would very much like to see my work didn't go to waste, otherwise I've wasted my time.

Don't defund police, don't protest, and let's try and keep perspective on the big picture.

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

And the long term results are that MLK was shot and, while he lived, he was the most hated man in America. Now that he's dead, he's every political pundit and pompous windbag's imaginary black friend, and most of his more radical teachings are safely whitewashed or ignored.

You're right that most of these protestors don't want Biden, because they aren't protesting about the presidency. They are protesting about police who are allowed to murder with impunity.

You talk about how people aren't perfect and it's not a perfect world, but then demand that ordinary citizens be perfect, taking punch after punch without hitting back, while the police are allowed to go around shooting and killing like video game protagonists.

You like MLK so much? Read Letters from Birmingham Jail. You're exactly the sort of whinging moderate he saw was an even bigger stumbling block to civil rights than the KKK.