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hammerofglass wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 8:27 am
90% of the time "woke" in the conservative sense is just "acknowledging people exist that the anti-woke don't want to exist". That's all Bud Light did.
Exactly. If you are not them, then you are "wrong". And the fact that that seemingly everyone is making a point of being "wrong" is filling them with both terror AND rage.
Come on now. That describes both sides. JK Rowling, Trump and abortion are amazing examples of this if you want to find a left wing forum to experiment on.
...you know, with how deep in the conservative media silo you are dismissing dislike of Rowling and Trump as irrational and having no idea what people are actually mad about is just expected.
Throwing abortion in there when so many have already suffered and died from the bans I'm genuinely shocked by. I thought you were better than that.
When I see the dislike of JK Rowling spreading to bullying schoolage streamers off Twitch for playing a Harry Potter game to name one of hundreds of dispicable acts that happened in the wake of the release of that game, I draw the line. What the woman herself may or may not have done at that point is irrelevant. That is zeoltry. A demonstration of hatred for someone so extreme that everyone is guilty by association. The exact same brand of zeoltry that leads to the hate that you are baselessly accusing me of supporting.
Any one who thinks that the Left are somehow more reasonable, more open-minded, and less prone to overreaction or mindless hatred is living in a dream world. Both sides are made up of *shock* human beings. The rules of the Force do not apply here.
So in boycott fail lol news looks like that "anti-woke" Ultra-Right beer grift fell apart when the brewery they tried to contract realized what what they'd actually signed up for.
Favorite part: "Weathers’ website said of his anti-trans rights beer, “If you know which restroom to use, you know what beer you should be drinking.” It bears mention that transgender people do know which restroom to use, conservatives just want to prohibit them from doing so."
...for space is wide, and good friends are too few.
hammerofglass wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 8:27 am
90% of the time "woke" in the conservative sense is just "acknowledging people exist that the anti-woke don't want to exist". That's all Bud Light did.
Exactly. If you are not them, then you are "wrong". And the fact that that seemingly everyone is making a point of being "wrong" is filling them with both terror AND rage.
Come on now. That describes both sides. JK Rowling, Trump and abortion are amazing examples of this if you want to find a left wing forum to experiment on.
...you know, with how deep in the conservative media silo you are dismissing dislike of Rowling and Trump as irrational and having no idea what people are actually mad about is just expected.
Throwing abortion in there when so many have already suffered and died from the bans I'm genuinely shocked by. I thought you were better than that.
When I see the dislike of JK Rowling spreading to bullying schoolage streamers off Twitch for playing a Harry Potter game to name one of hundreds of dispicable acts that happened in the wake of the release of that game, I draw the line. What the woman herself may or may not have done at that point is irrelevant. That is zeoltry. A demonstration of hatred for someone so extreme that everyone is guilty by association. The exact same brand of zeoltry that leads to the hate that you are baselessly accusing me of supporting.
Any one who thinks that the Left are somehow more reasonable, more open-minded, and less prone to overreaction or mindless hatred is living in a dream world. Both sides are made up of *shock* human beings. The rules of the Force do not apply here.
Yeah, the active hate mobs WERE too much. ALL they had do was unfollow/block anyone they were following who streamed Legacy and let the lost numbers show that signal-boosting a game from which partial proceeds are going to a woman actively supporting anti-LGBT+ groups isn't cool. But NOPE, they HAD to make a show of it. Against KIDS, no less. Shameful.
hammerofglass wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 8:27 am
90% of the time "woke" in the conservative sense is just "acknowledging people exist that the anti-woke don't want to exist". That's all Bud Light did.
Exactly. If you are not them, then you are "wrong". And the fact that that seemingly everyone is making a point of being "wrong" is filling them with both terror AND rage.
Come on now. That describes both sides. JK Rowling, Trump and abortion are amazing examples of this if you want to find a left wing forum to experiment on.
...you know, with how deep in the conservative media silo you are dismissing dislike of Rowling and Trump as irrational and having no idea what people are actually mad about is just expected.
Throwing abortion in there when so many have already suffered and died from the bans I'm genuinely shocked by. I thought you were better than that.
When I see the dislike of JK Rowling spreading to bullying schoolage streamers off Twitch for playing a Harry Potter game to name one of hundreds of dispicable acts that happened in the wake of the release of that game, I draw the line. What the woman herself may or may not have done at that point is irrelevant. That is zeoltry. A demonstration of hatred for someone so extreme that everyone is guilty by association. The exact same brand of zeoltry that leads to the hate that you are baselessly accusing me of supporting.
Any one who thinks that the Left are somehow more reasonable, more open-minded, and less prone to overreaction or mindless hatred is living in a dream world. Both sides are made up of *shock* human beings. The rules of the Force do not apply here.
Yeah, the active hate mobs WERE too much. ALL they had do was unfollow/block anyone they were following who streamed Legacy and let the lost numbers show that signal-boosting a game from which partial proceeds are going to a woman actively supporting anti-LGBT+ groups isn't cool. But NOPE, they HAD to make a show of it. Against KIDS, no less. Shameful.
Exactly a person on Twitch I follow was playing it, instead of bitching at him I just stayed off his channel until he was done with the game.
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I am deeply dubious of this equivalency. Every case I saw of “harassment” for playing the wizard game invariably ended up being “people ask the streamer to not and the streamer breaks down from being informed they are funding hate”, while the deeply weird performative destruction of Bud Light cans was something they paraded. The bomb threats were documented fact.
Do you have documented cases of actual harassment or are you assuming it was widespread due to media manipulation presenting cis fragility as harassment?
CmdrKing wrote: ↑Fri Apr 21, 2023 8:56 pm
I am deeply dubious of this equivalency. Every case I saw of “harassment” for playing the wizard game invariably ended up being “people ask the streamer to not and the streamer breaks down from being informed they are funding hate”, while the deeply weird performative destruction of Bud Light cans was something they paraded. The bomb threats were documented fact.
Do you have documented cases of actual harassment or are you assuming it was widespread due to media manipulation presenting cis fragility as harassment?
Girlfriend Reviews, an engaged pair of YouTubers I watch got hit with a some after streaming it on Twitch. The eponymous Girlfriend is Jewish and wanted to see just how bad the reported antisemitism in the game was (it was bad). Ended up false-flagged off of Reddit for this. I don't think they deserved that. youtu.be/B0TwTJCRf58
I’m having trouble digging up the video, but if you look at clips of that actual stream, what you find is a few trans people in the chat saying they were disappointed, or leaving, or trying to explain why playing the game at all on twitch was harmful, and the streamers having a low key meltdown at having their self-described ally hood questioned.
Which gets into what I’m saying here. There were like three really public examples of streamers being “harassed” and “driven off of platforms” and it turns out only one is even half true (that Reddit really is gone and all), but the anti-trans movement so flooded the zone with those three stories they’re the first results for any kind of search about the underlying incidents. It’s all shadows on the walls playing at being serious dangers.
Further even under harshest interpretation this is a false equivalence. “Trans people explained why streaming a game was harmful, then some bad actors among them harassed a Reddit out of existence” and “right wingers performatively destroyed their Bud Light, then some bad actors among them called in bomb threats to bottling plants” are VASTLY different levels of escalation! Are you really out here trying to both sides between these two sets of cause to effect?
What is with the idea if I destroy my own property that will own the other side, because I don't get that. They already got your money, and your now down whatever you jsut destroy.
Thebestoftherest wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 6:21 pm
What is with the idea if I destroy my own property that will own the other side, because I don't get that. They already got your money, and your now down whatever you jsut destroy.
I mean at least for Kid Rock it bought him cultural relevance for a couple of weeks.
...for space is wide, and good friends are too few.
Thebestoftherest wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 6:21 pm
What is with the idea if I destroy my own property that will own the other side, because I don't get that. They already got your money, and your now down whatever you just destroy.
I mean at least for Kid Rock it bought him cultural relevance for a couple of weeks.
