Considering the biggest factors behind the loss were “widespread voter apathy” and “voters deeply unhappy with the incumbent due to perceived economic precarity”, the most cogent analysis of the election is “Biden beefed it by running for reelection rather than letting democrats hold a robust primary”.
Like, the sitting Vice President can’t convincingly get up there and say “Biden didn’t do enough for the American people and we can do more!” Harris is his VP, it’d be obviously fake!
Like, if you want to argue that other factors did more to turn voters off Harris, I get it. I’d argue that rank sexism is the single biggest factor in this election, myself. But if we’re taking a cold, hard look at what changed between 2020 and 2024? Yeah, the leading conclusion is “Biden’s pride fucked us”.
Trump vs Biden^H^H^H^H^H Harris: Kamala Rising
Re: Trump vs Biden^H^H^H^H^H Harris: Kamala Rising
Honestly...
The fact they ALL voted for Trump and he won the popular vote doesn't say Democrats failed extremely badly. I can write a list of the top 100 fuckups of Democrats in 2024 alone... but that list is nothing on the GOP. But they won. In a massive wave.
So yeah... it's more America kinda said fuck it and killed itself for various reasons.
The fact they ALL voted for Trump and he won the popular vote doesn't say Democrats failed extremely badly. I can write a list of the top 100 fuckups of Democrats in 2024 alone... but that list is nothing on the GOP. But they won. In a massive wave.
So yeah... it's more America kinda said fuck it and killed itself for various reasons.
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Re: Trump vs Biden^H^H^H^H^H Harris: Kamala Rising
I'm still willing to buy that it was primarily economics (with the MAGA faithful being notable but secondary).
Gas and food and rent are still too high, so burn it all down until we get someone who can just snap their fingers and fix it.
Apparently, quite a few incumbent governments have been ousted in recent elections (Japan, the UK, couple others). I think the whole planet may be trying to wipe the slate clean...
Problem is that we only have two viable options here and the non-incumbent just so happened to be the GREATER of the two evils who has full-on BOASTED that he'll make everything worse.
Gas and food and rent are still too high, so burn it all down until we get someone who can just snap their fingers and fix it.
Apparently, quite a few incumbent governments have been ousted in recent elections (Japan, the UK, couple others). I think the whole planet may be trying to wipe the slate clean...
Problem is that we only have two viable options here and the non-incumbent just so happened to be the GREATER of the two evils who has full-on BOASTED that he'll make everything worse.
Re: Trump vs Biden^H^H^H^H^H Harris: Kamala Rising
I think that summarizing the issue down to “economics” is doing people too much credit in many instances. Like, people will say “the economy” but ignored that only one candidate was proposing solutions for economic hardship (incomplete and possibly inadequate ones! But solutions) and it was the candidate who lost. Trump’s economic platform was a series of obvious grifts and obvious disasters that we may well never recover from if he follows through on them.
The thing to remember here is that Trump did not substantially increase his 2020 numbers. All the Nazi youth and flipped Latine votes amounted to replacing the millions of his followers he got killed by telling them vaccines and masks were dangerous.
the larger factor was a lotta Biden voters just staying home, by most account particularly suburban white men. And that’s where my comment about Biden staying in too long becomes relevant: selfish as they have been, those are voters that are dispirited and don’t see much improvement to their lives coming from any candidate. And it’s hard to motivate them if you can’t get up and say with your whole chest “Biden’s economy is not great and we can do better”, and Harris as his VP… can’t.
The thing to remember here is that Trump did not substantially increase his 2020 numbers. All the Nazi youth and flipped Latine votes amounted to replacing the millions of his followers he got killed by telling them vaccines and masks were dangerous.
the larger factor was a lotta Biden voters just staying home, by most account particularly suburban white men. And that’s where my comment about Biden staying in too long becomes relevant: selfish as they have been, those are voters that are dispirited and don’t see much improvement to their lives coming from any candidate. And it’s hard to motivate them if you can’t get up and say with your whole chest “Biden’s economy is not great and we can do better”, and Harris as his VP… can’t.
