Journalist Assaulted By Antifa in Portland

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That's subject to a bit of speculation with regard to your claim of terrorists being backed by the state.
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If the cops are saying they were ordered to hold back by the Mayor, that isn't speculation. Something similar happened in Berkley, too, where the police held back until the people Antifa were trying to beat up managed to turn it around on them.
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The article just says that people were protesting and that's about it. They weren't ordered to "hold back" from anything illegal as far as what's being said.

And if so, then that's a matter of a corrupt politician, not the whole frame of government.
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Since when has protesting having been illegal in USA? One just can't label it terrorism based on do they like what is being protested or not based on they own political views when freedom of speech is still a thing. At least I assume that it still is thing. Freedom of speech is supposed to apply to everyone and not just those that share certain political views.
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Protesting isn't illegal, but assaulting people is, and that's what Antifa is all about.
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And that's not inconsistent with the mayor's orders.
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The journalist obviously did something to provoke them. It's all his fault that he was assaulted.
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jadenova wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2019 7:27 pm The journalist obviously did something to provoke them. It's all his fault that he was assaulted.
You have to undestand we have people in here who belive in violence as legitimate tool in the 2019 USA in the civic discourse.

Put sarcasm with small letters under your sentence or something.
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Mecha82 wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2019 8:44 am Since when has protesting having been illegal in USA? One just can't label it terrorism based on do they like what is being protested or not based on they own political views when freedom of speech is still a thing. At least I assume that it still is thing. Freedom of speech is supposed to apply to everyone and not just those that share certain political views.
Well it is not. That is a fact. It's also a fact that ANTIFA drags a bit of controversy to their name. I'm not sure if you're commenting with respect to Admiral X's assertions, but in the case of that, the presence of Antifa can most possibly cause a formal concern. When the mayor calls for the allowance of protest, my first thought, based on just the article, is that he's taking extra precaution to not upend Antifa's first amendment rights as protestors. Now, to the extent that the police force dropped the ball on "intervening only in the interest of safety," the mayor's alleged complicity with Antifa is a bit of speculation. But also everything presented so far has reasonable doubt supporting standard procedure.
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