Nick Cannon Goes on a Racist Rant

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goodperson25 wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2020 12:06 am
Dragon Ball Fan wrote: Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:00 pm If you consider Oscar Shindler, not even all Nazis were bastards, so why are all cops?

but this is about white people in general too.

also, are you saying my uncle isn't a real person with real feelings?
What makes you think Oskar Schindler wouldn't be the first to say that all Nazis are/were/will be bastards?
maybe but this thread isn't specifically about cops, I also was talking about social media activists' tendency to lump all white people together, as as if all white people are Nazis.
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and this tendency to lump all white people together DOES have real consequences, what do you think motivated the 2017 Chicago Torture Incident?
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and one reason I focus on the white people is because as a white guy myself, I can't properly talk about non white issues. and I know white people have less of this problem but it shouldn't be happening at all and I'm worried that dismissing it as not that big a deal could maybe let it become a big deal later.
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Dragon Ball Fan wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2020 2:49 am and one reason I focus on the white people is because as a white guy myself, I can't properly talk about non white issues. and I know white people have less of this problem but it shouldn't be happening at all and I'm worried that dismissing it as not that big a deal could maybe let it become a big deal later.
IMO, you can talk perfectly well about non-white issues. Facts don't care about your skin color. As far as the issues that don't make it into databases, sure, you'll have to check your assumptions and keep an open mind. I think that's probably good advice in any circumstances.
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Dragon Ball Fan wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2020 12:12 am
goodperson25 wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2020 12:06 am
Dragon Ball Fan wrote: Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:00 pm If you consider Oscar Shindler, not even all Nazis were bastards, so why are all cops?

but this is about white people in general too.

also, are you saying my uncle isn't a real person with real feelings?
What makes you think Oskar Schindler wouldn't be the first to say that all Nazis are/were/will be bastards?
maybe but this thread isn't specifically about cops, I also was talking about social media activists' tendency to lump all white people together, as as if all white people are Nazis.
So, by "social media activists" do you mean "randos on the internet"?
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Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2020 5:00 am
Dragon Ball Fan wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2020 12:12 am
goodperson25 wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2020 12:06 am
Dragon Ball Fan wrote: Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:00 pm If you consider Oscar Shindler, not even all Nazis were bastards, so why are all cops?

but this is about white people in general too.

also, are you saying my uncle isn't a real person with real feelings?
What makes you think Oskar Schindler wouldn't be the first to say that all Nazis are/were/will be bastards?
maybe but this thread isn't specifically about cops, I also was talking about social media activists' tendency to lump all white people together, as as if all white people are Nazis.
So, by "social media activists" do you mean "randos on the internet"?
but social media does have an effect on society, it's posioning our minds even if we don't personally use it.
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My focus is on "Randos" rather than "internet". There's a difference between movement leaders and designated spokespeople vs some fifteen year old with a tumblr account who has never met another queer person but reblogs the right controversial Voltron ships to get popular.
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Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 4:34 am My focus is on "Randos" rather than "internet". There's a difference between movement leaders and designated spokespeople vs some fifteen year old with a tumblr account who has never met another queer person but reblogs the right controversial Voltron ships to get popular.
I'm talking about the kind of social media activist who will unironically use #KillAllMen.

but anyway, still like Zootopia even more in light of these type of discussions, not only did it address police corruption without having to demonize every single cop but it showed that everyone can be racist, even a minority individual. unlike internationallity where one group are always the oppressors and every other group are always the victims.
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Dragon Ball Fan wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 9:17 pm
Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 4:34 am My focus is on "Randos" rather than "internet". There's a difference between movement leaders and designated spokespeople vs some fifteen year old with a tumblr account who has never met another queer person but reblogs the right controversial Voltron ships to get popular.
I'm talking about the kind of social media activist who will unironically use #KillAllMen.

but anyway, still like Zootopia even more in light of these type of discussions, not only did it address police corruption without having to demonize every single cop but it showed that everyone can be racist, even a minority individual. unlike internationallity where one group are always the oppressors and every other group are always the victims.
It's not really a battle of principle though. It's like I was saying to you before, where it's an issue that's specifically trying to be addressed and not a value judgement upon people.

We're not talking about the pursuit of enlightened knowledge and how to weigh everything. I mean Fuzzy is but, the heart of the agenda is bringing more consideration to systemic social issues.
..What mirror universe?
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Dragon Ball Fan wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 9:17 pm
Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 4:34 am My focus is on "Randos" rather than "internet". There's a difference between movement leaders and designated spokespeople vs some fifteen year old with a tumblr account who has never met another queer person but reblogs the right controversial Voltron ships to get popular.
I'm talking about the kind of social media activist who will unironically use #KillAllMen.

but anyway, still like Zootopia even more in light of these type of discussions, not only did it address police corruption without having to demonize every single cop but it showed that everyone can be racist, even a minority individual. unlike internationallity where one group are always the oppressors and every other group are always the victims.
And are those people leaders in the field with letters after their name and lots of followers? Do they have recognized positions in nonprofits and boards? Or are they some fifteen-year old who learned everything they know about the subject by reblogging from other fifteen year olds? You didn't answer my question.

And please shut up about Zootopia. Judy Hopps isn't real and she won't fuck you.
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