Admiral X wrote: ↑Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:01 pm
Where they are directing their anger is insane and unjustified.
They are angry at the government so they are directing that anger toward the government. Seems to make sense to me.
Are you familiar with the idea of "Standing"?
It has been in the news recently in direct relation to the allegations of fraud in the election.
The idea is, that it is not enough to be mad at someone in order to sue them, they have to have actually done something to you.
You have to be a victim, you have to have Standing.
When a minority group protests against various systemic injustices they have moral standing, even if they do not have legal standing, because again, this is systemic, it is hard to have legal standing when the system is the thing oppressing you.
Oppression and harm against minority groups is not a conspiracy theory, it is historical, it is nakedly obvious, and it is so constant in society that to deny it is not an opinion it is just factually wrong to make such denials.
The groups that attacked the Capital do not have legal or moral standing. They are people of a privileged subclass in the united states. They are not directing anger against a system that is harming them, but one that is simply not advantaging them as much as it used to (and really, since Trump, the US is backsliding into advantaging white people more, rich white people especially).
They don't have standing. They can be mad at the government, but if their anger is generated or justified by mystifying nonsense like mass election fraud, then their actions are unjustified, they have no standing.
I keep seeing people try to compare protests that turned violent by oppressed groups as somehow equivalent to violent attacks by a privileged group. There is no comparison. This is not apologia, this is not hair splitting. One group took justified action, there were bad ramifications, and violent consequences. The other group took unjustified (and immediately harmful) actions and suffered few consequences.
It is at best, intellectually dishonest to claim these two things are the same, that one somehow excuses the other, or that there is some grander conspiracy by a vaguely defined "Leftist" movement.
Fascists gathered in the nation's capital to attempt a coup on behalf of a lame duck President.
This is gross, and you all need to stop treating it like anything other than bad, dangerous, and an undermining of the law and order the rioters claim that they love and desire.... At least when "Law and Order" is not just being used as coded speech for "White Power".