San Francisco to allow police 'killer robots'

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

And if these robots can stop crime wile eliminating the risk of the officers controlling them, why would you not want them used? Unless you just want dead cops.

Because of the high probability of them being used on people who aren't criminals plus the likelihood of collateral damage.

Given how often they get wrong addresses when serving no-knock warrants, I'd be very hesitant to use that same system to provide locations for explosive drone use.

It's not really about high probability in practice but uncertainty in provision.

[Dragon Ball Fan]

You've also got to consider malfunctions, where suddenly an explosive drone is flying around uncontrolled until it hits a house or a school or a hospital or something. Also it could get hacked. Cops aren't known for their tech savvy. Some loser could take control of it and blow up a gun shop or an abortion clinic.

I get that concern but why would a cop not be less likely to use the robots to kill if they obviously, won't fear for their lives wile operating it?

The cops will find some other acceptable excuse. I wasn't that long ago that a cop choked an unarmed man to death as three of his buddies looked on while responding to a call about a counterfeit $20 bill.

Again, I just feel if they can do their job with out any risk to their lives, why not? Are cops still supposed to risk their lives when they have another option?

[pilight]

Again, I just feel if they can do their job with out any risk to their lives, why not? Are cops still supposed to risk their lives when they have another option?

If the other option is to risk the lives of innocent people, then yes.

[Thebestoftherest]

Yeah can we please not indulge in DBF temper trantum.

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

Again, I just feel if they can do their job with out any risk to their lives, why not? Are cops still supposed to risk their lives when they have another option?

It’s understandable that the cops would want to be more efficient and safe. But it’s a matter of abuse that comes about by the police department overall.

The innocent casualties would be expected to rise. People don’t trust the people in charge to make sure that the police themselves don’t abuse anyone (not just the officers themselves whom people don’t trust).

[Dragon Ball Fan]

okay, I guess the concern of abuse of these drones is more important.

[Draco Dracul]

Again, I just feel if they can do their job with out any risk to their lives, why not? Are cops still supposed to risk their lives when they have another option?

I mean my preference would be for most of them to be fired, most of thier funding be redirected to social service as to actually prevent crime, and the jobs of investigation, providing citations, and responding to mental health crises be made into separate roles not directly tied to being an armed violence doer.

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

okay, I guess the concern of abuse of these drones is more important.

And it's not as if the only alternative is to send the cops in unarmed and vulnerable or something. There are people who don't like the robots and would rather the cops play it safe and take more time, if that can allow the situation to resolve safely for everyone.

[clearspira]

Again, I just feel if they can do their job with out any risk to their lives, why not? Are cops still supposed to risk their lives when they have another option?

I mean my preference would be for most of them to be fired, most of thier funding be redirected to social service as to actually prevent crime, and the jobs of investigation, providing citations, and responding to mental health crises be made into separate roles not directly tied to being an armed violence doer.

With the amount of guns your country has on the streets, it will never work. You are not Norway. You are a country where every school shooting or gay club massacre is met with "oh, is it Tuesday again?"

[Frustration]

I mean my preference would be for most of them to be fired, most of thier funding be redirected to social service as to actually prevent crime, and the jobs of investigation, providing citations, and responding to mental health crises be made into separate roles not directly tied to being an armed violence doer.

And then all the problems that motivated them to develop so dangerously in the first place go unchecked.