Hamas Attacks Israel

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clearspira wrote: Tue Jan 23, 2024 10:16 pm
Deledrius wrote: Mon Jan 22, 2024 6:26 am The fact that this is an election year feels like very good motivation for someone like Netanyahu to press his luck and try to affect the outcome of the election here; it's a win-win situation for him right now.
We must be very careful not to forget about Putin too. He'll want his mate back in, make no mistake.
Putin doesn't seem to be all there either. Anyway, his problem with Trump is that Trump's self-centred behaviour is rather erratic and unpredictable.
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McAvoy wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 5:44 am
Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Sat Jan 20, 2024 6:59 pm
clearspira wrote: Sat Jan 20, 2024 9:31 am
And if Israel does not come to the table despite Hamas being willing to do so, the US is holding all of the cards as their greatest overseas benefactor. Biden just needs to threaten to withdraw those ships he has next to Israel and boom, done. I have a feeling that America's involvement in this war is going to come to the fore one way or another by November as it will become an election issue.
Ugh, don't remind me. I'm honestly worried that the Republicans might win the election because enough left-leaning Democrat voters turn away from the polls in disgust. Thank Genocide Joe for fucking that up if it happens.
Honestly worried about that too. I just don't understand how the Democrats just couldn't find someone to take up the torch. I think it was discussed here but it was an assumption that Biden was just a reset and then a new candidate would come up for the 2024 election and Biden would retire. You can't tell me there is someone who is Gen X that could build off of the platform from Biden and basically not be Trump? What the hell is going on with the Democrats? Seriously. All you got to do is bring someone young like in their 50's and even have the same platform as Biden. Maybe even snarky about Trump and they would win. What the fuck?

End of rant.
The Democrats apparently learned nothing from Obama. When he first came to power it was on a platform that represented change. That's why people loved him. He looked different (and i'm not just talking about race), he acted different, he seemed to be bringing fresh ideas to the table.

And then they followed that up with creaky old Hillary Clinton who was and is clearly despised by vast swathes of the American population as well as representing a return to the political dynasties of old. America doesn't have royalty but you do have Kennedys, Clintons and Bushes it seems. Trump couldn't have asked for a better punching bag.

And they followed her up with creaky old Biden, who ran on the platform of ''at least i'm not Trump.'' Well... that may have worked in 2020. But in 2024 people are just in a state of despair at having to make that choice again.
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clearspira wrote: Tue Jan 23, 2024 10:39 pmAnd they followed her up with creaky old Biden, who ran on the platform of ''at least i'm not Trump.'' Well... that may have worked in 2020. But in 2024 people are just in a state of despair at having to make that choice again.
Biden isn't nearly as bad as people make him out to be, quite the contrary. From all the currently available Democrats, he's by far the best compromise between the old and new values. People are really hating on him for all the wrong reasons. Not progressive enough? You do realize that large swathes of the american public aren't interested in someone akin to Sanders, right? Too old? Since when does age matter in and of itself? Candidate could be 25 or 75, it's the ideas, the drive to implement them and the clout to gather support for them that counts. What are you gonna do with a 25 year old super-socialista (by US standards) with pink hair and a fluid gender-identity, with no backup from the political establishment? You're not gonna get elected in, you're not gonna get shit done and those two are the things that matter right now and Biden is right there.
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Madner Kami wrote: Tue Jan 23, 2024 11:31 pm Too old? Since when does age matter in and of itself?
Well the age requirement to be president is 35.
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I think other than the Trump cult voting for him specifically and maybe making that one close we're probably going to see Republicans get destroyed this year. There's a big cultural backlash against them for all the bullying culture war bullshit and complete failure to actually govern anywhere they have power. That's the trend in special elections and school boards chasing out the Moms Against Liberty types, over the last year, anyway.

Might even be more dramatic than the pasting the Tories are about to take in the general.
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hammerofglass wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 7:16 am I think other than the Trump cult voting for him specifically and maybe making that one close we're probably going to see Republicans get destroyed this year. There's a big cultural backlash against them for all the bullying culture war bullshit and complete failure to actually govern anywhere they have power. That's the trend in special elections and school boards chasing out the Moms Against Liberty types, over the last year, anyway.

Might even be more dramatic than the pasting the Tories are about to take in the general.
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Gods I hope so too. Then we could actually start getting some legislative work done for the better.
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McAvoy wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 5:44 am
Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Sat Jan 20, 2024 6:59 pm
clearspira wrote: Sat Jan 20, 2024 9:31 am
And if Israel does not come to the table despite Hamas being willing to do so, the US is holding all of the cards as their greatest overseas benefactor. Biden just needs to threaten to withdraw those ships he has next to Israel and boom, done. I have a feeling that America's involvement in this war is going to come to the fore one way or another by November as it will become an election issue.
Ugh, don't remind me. I'm honestly worried that the Republicans might win the election because enough left-leaning Democrat voters turn away from the polls in disgust. Thank Genocide Joe for fucking that up if it happens.
Honestly worried about that too. I just don't understand how the Democrats just couldn't find someone to take up the torch. I think it was discussed here but it was an assumption that Biden was just a reset and then a new candidate would come up for the 2024 election and Biden would retire. You can't tell me there is someone who is Gen X that could build off of the platform from Biden and basically not be Trump? What the hell is going on with the Democrats? Seriously. All you got to do is bring someone young like in their 50's and even have the same platform as Biden. Maybe even snarky about Trump and they would win. What the fuck?

End of rant.
Newsom has been the strongest candidate for candidacy for quite some time.


But no, gen-x are unfortunately neither very hierarchically minded nor have a strong basis for traditions, unlike the millennials and boomers.
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BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 11:40 pm
McAvoy wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 5:44 am
Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Sat Jan 20, 2024 6:59 pm
clearspira wrote: Sat Jan 20, 2024 9:31 am
And if Israel does not come to the table despite Hamas being willing to do so, the US is holding all of the cards as their greatest overseas benefactor. Biden just needs to threaten to withdraw those ships he has next to Israel and boom, done. I have a feeling that America's involvement in this war is going to come to the fore one way or another by November as it will become an election issue.
Ugh, don't remind me. I'm honestly worried that the Republicans might win the election because enough left-leaning Democrat voters turn away from the polls in disgust. Thank Genocide Joe for fucking that up if it happens.
Honestly worried about that too. I just don't understand how the Democrats just couldn't find someone to take up the torch. I think it was discussed here but it was an assumption that Biden was just a reset and then a new candidate would come up for the 2024 election and Biden would retire. You can't tell me there is someone who is Gen X that could build off of the platform from Biden and basically not be Trump? What the hell is going on with the Democrats? Seriously. All you got to do is bring someone young like in their 50's and even have the same platform as Biden. Maybe even snarky about Trump and they would win. What the fuck?

End of rant.
Newsom has been the strongest candidate for candidacy for quite some time.


But no, gen-x are unfortunately neither very hierarchically minded nor have a strong basis for traditions, unlike the millennials and boomers.
I don't think that describes Millenials much either.
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clearspira wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 6:48 am I don't think that describes Millenials much either.
I should have elaborated and said "respectively speaking," correlating millennials with being hierarchically minded.
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