Youtuber Sargon of Akkad declares his intention to run as an MEP

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Admiral X wrote: Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:14 pm
Draco Dracul wrote: Tue Apr 16, 2019 2:05 pm And to get to it, the systemic issues that create inequality need to be removed.
:lol: And you think the way to do that is by creating more inequality? Because that's what "progressives" do. You know, aside from living in a perpetual 1950s fantasy land.
No, the way you do that is by compensating for comparative advantage and gradually remove compensation as the playing field levels. Also fantasizing about the 1950s is more of a republican thing.
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Creating inequality? It is the right and right-leaning mindset that thinks of women as lesser than men and that gender roles are still natural and inevitable or should be taught and enforced to a degree. And I've met them. People who call themselves "classically liberal" think that. There's nothing liberal about that at ALL.
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Yukaphile wrote: Tue Apr 16, 2019 8:52 pm People who call themselves "classically liberal" think that. There's nothing liberal about that at ALL.
From Wiki: Classical liberalism is a political ideology and a branch of liberalism which advocates civil liberties under the rule of law with an emphasis on economic freedom. Closely related to economic liberalism, it developed in the early 19th century, building on ideas from the previous century as a response to urbanisation and to the Industrial Revolution in Europe and the United States. Notable individuals whose ideas contributed to classical liberalism include John Locke, Jean-Baptiste Say, Thomas Robert Malthus and David Ricardo. It drew on the classical economic ideas espoused by Adam Smith in Book One of The Wealth of Nations and on a belief in natural law, utilitarianism and progress. The term classical liberalism has often been applied in retrospect to distinguish earlier 19th-century liberalism from social liberalism.

From Wiki: Social liberalism (also known as modern liberalism in the United States and left liberalism in Germany) is a political ideology and a variety of liberalism that endorses a regulated free market economy and the expansion of civil and political rights. A social liberal government is expected to address economic and social issues such as poverty, health care and education in a liberal state. It does so in allowing autonomy of the individual and products of the market economy unrestricted access with the goal to increase wellbeing for all.

TL;DR: you are putting too much weight on modern liberalism as the ''true'' form of what a liberal is when both versions are equally true and yet quite different. Its also worth noting that the former is more widespread in the UK according to Wiki.
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Draco Dracul wrote: Tue Apr 16, 2019 8:45 pmNo, the way you do that is by compensating for comparative advantage...
Wow. That is "Heisenberg Compensator" levels of simplification there.

Well played, sir. Well played.
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There is perhaps a bit of No True Scotsman here, but these people all come from purple or red states, and do tend to think in very old-fashioned and outdated terms in some areas. Women's rights is one of those areas.
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Draco Dracul wrote: Tue Apr 16, 2019 8:45 pm No, the way you do that is by compensating for comparative advantage and gradually remove compensation as the playing field levels.
By discriminating against people on the basis of their race and/or sex. No dice.
Also fantasizing about the 1950s is more of a republican thing.
The regressive left seems to think it's still the 1950s, or more accurately, an even more fucked up fantasy version of the 1950s.
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clearspira wrote: Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:15 pm https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmytXiVXoYs&t=0s

As if Brexit could not get any weirder. Personally I think that he'll get irreversibly smeared by the mainstream press before he gets anywhere regardless of his policies.
Nobody needs to "smear" him. He does that plenty well himself what with his sophomoric pseudointellectualism, intolerable smugness, incompetent debate "skills", general douchebag attitude, and complete lack of charisma, wit, intellect, or even self-awareness.

Dude will be lucky if he doesn't crash and burn before the election even happens.
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..What mirror universe?
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Sorry, but your cartoon doesn't excuse discriminating against someone on the basis of something like race and/or sex. At best it's a poorly thought out rationalization.
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That's a peculiar charge, but it more points to the conception of justice by means of assessing structural aspects of society in a nuanced manner rather than oversimplifying issues with a trite perception of equitable circumstances.
..What mirror universe?
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