Remember how the Mainstream Media said they won't be coming for Jefferson and Washington Next?

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Re: Remember how the Mainstream Media said they won't be coming for Jefferson and Washington Next?

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And wile it doesn't absolve him of owning slaves in the first place, I still don't understand why the fact that Washington freed his slaves and did lots of nice things for them counts for absolutely nothing with leftists.
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Re: Remember how the Mainstream Media said they won't be coming for Jefferson and Washington Next?

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Silence, clown. We are trying to have a proper discussion.
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Re: Remember how the Mainstream Media said they won't be coming for Jefferson and Washington Next?

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Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 11:12 pm Silence, clown. We are trying to have a proper discussion.
Why not just explain it to me? Again, him freeing his slaves was good enough for the early abolitionist movement.
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Re: Remember how the Mainstream Media said they won't be coming for Jefferson and Washington Next?

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So what should be done?
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Re: Remember how the Mainstream Media said they won't be coming for Jefferson and Washington Next?

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Dragon Ball Fan wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 11:29 pm
Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 11:12 pm Silence, clown. We are trying to have a proper discussion.
Why not just explain it to me? Again, him freeing his slaves was good enough for the early abolitionist movement.
That argument is hardly universally recognized as a valid one. (and in fact has been demonstrably used to promote ideals in opposition to the historical movements they reference) Is that a good start?
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Re: Remember how the Mainstream Media said they won't be coming for Jefferson and Washington Next?

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So your claiming that separate but (not) equal was a good thing? A movement so vile that even a judge who was also an open member of the KKK vote against it is a good thing?
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Thebestoftherest wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 11:47 pm So what should be done?
You don't have to like the great hero the school system makes him out to be but I'd like to see leftists at least say someting along the lines of "Yeah, Washington participated in a horrible atrocity but at least he mitigated it wile doing it and eventually realized he was wrong and let his slaves go." I'm not even saying necessarily his statures should stay up.
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Re: Remember how the Mainstream Media said they won't be coming for Jefferson and Washington Next?

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goodperson25 wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 11:59 pm
Dragon Ball Fan wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 11:29 pm
Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 11:12 pm Silence, clown. We are trying to have a proper discussion.
Why not just explain it to me? Again, him freeing his slaves was good enough for the early abolitionist movement.
That argument is hardly universally recognized as a valid one. (and in fact has been demonstrably used to promote ideals in opposition to the historical movements they reference) Is that a good start?
It's just, if abolitionists accepted Washington, why not modern leftists?
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Re: Remember how the Mainstream Media said they won't be coming for Jefferson and Washington Next?

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Because we should be better.
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Plus the who left against washington was because trump was throwing as hissy fit and didn't want to remove the racist confederate statues.
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