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Thebestoftherest wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 2:23 pm
It doesn't help, that rape is one of those subject people don't like to talk about.
It has more to do with the fact that you can't lie about being murdered.
Someone reached out to me years ago that was being genuinely sexually assaulted. I believed them and helped them through it. Later, someone we both mutually knew claimed to have been raped. I believed them, only to find out years later that they lied because they were jealous of the "special attention" the first person was getting. Shortly after the second claim a third person we all knew claimed to have been raped. They later admitted to me that they did so because they felt left out.
Now you throw in the malicious use of such charges and that gets into every darker territory.
That sort of shit angers me. It causes justified doubts over something where doubt shouldn't factor in because it means that people like the first person could go without getting help if they seek it from people who have been burned in the past by liars.
Beastro wrote: ↑Fri Jan 14, 2022 11:59 pm
Same with the fact that poverty will never go away and that some prefer it. I know that last bit you'll bulk at, Fuzzy, but people do. Near my hometown right by where my brother used to live is an older guy that has spent the better part of a decade living on the curb homeless by a Tim Horton's. We drove by years ago and my brother pointed him out, he mentioned that the guy's a millionaire. He heard that the town planned to build some condos where he hangs at and decided to protest it by camping out, only he seems to prefer it now and ignores his family and his old life for scrounging up whatever money he can cleaning the Tim Horton's park lot for them in exchange for a bit of food and coffee everyday.
Poverty is neither an aesthetic nor a lifestyle choice, and in fact the point of eliminating poverty is to give people choices. If no one has to live in the streets, but some people actively choose live in the streets you've still eliminated poverty. I mean your example of how poverty can never be eliminated is a man who is not impoverished, but can afford to live how he wants because he does not need to struggle to survive.
Beastro...you wanna come up with some supporting evidence for those outlandish claims beyond the Spider's Georg of Homelessness? Because "crime is impossible to solve at a higher rate" and "mental health problems are impossible to solve at a higher rate" are pretty big claims in and of themselves, and nations like Finland have proven you can just...get rid of homelessness by giving people homes. At a rate better than 8%.
Just... what the frell, man? That is a set of hot takes I would not expect from anyone really.
"Believe me, there’s nothing so terrible that someone won’t support it."
— Un Lun Dun, China Mieville
Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 3:48 am
Beastro...you wanna come up with some supporting evidence for those outlandish claims beyond the Spider's Georg of Homelessness? Because "crime is impossible to solve at a higher rate" and "mental health problems are impossible to solve at a higher rate" are pretty big claims in and of themselves, and nations like Finland have proven you can just...get rid of homelessness by giving people homes. At a rate better than 8%.
Just... what the frell, man? That is a set of hot takes I would not expect from anyone really.
No matter the system some people will always fall through the cracks. Doesn't mean things can't be significantly improved though.
Some mental health problems are impossible to solve. There's too much of the world as it is now that I can't stand for me to realistically contemplated not suffering from depression. Much of it involves stuff lots of people actually seem to like, so it's not all the big problems just about everyone agrees on. How are you going to solve that?
That kinda more describes the equality of outcome mindset when equality of opportunity tends to be the development that works on collective society.
We know quite a bit about depression on a scientific level. We know a lot about the various types of mental illness that lead this way or that way, albeit without much wherewithal to implement that knowledge to help either the already disenfranchised individuals dealing with it, or even the ones that are going through it at the moment.
But I think Fuzzy has a good point that there are public procedures here and there that can often be studied and examined for their ability to take a public mandate and follow through with it socially in an overall agreeable manner.
