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Madner Kami wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2024 9:01 pm

CharlesPhipps wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2024 8:05 pm It seems that this is an internal fight between Netanyahu and his own cabinet.

And that's the master-stroke that Biden struck, without anyone noticing. See, that proposal? Not created with the influence of the US at all. It's a strictly INTERNAL proposal that was circulated in Israeli governmental circles. Biden just put it out there all willy-nilly, pretending it's an honest proposal with the involvement of the Israeli government, causing some much needed havoc in Tel Aviv. Meanwhile, the opposition actually offered Netanyahu (I really despise calling him Bibi, as that's like calling Hitler Addi in my eyes) to support his government, if they go for that proposal and the extreme right predictably quits the government.

Hence, why I was asking earlier. "They" not supporting the president, was implying the israeli government isn't backing a proposal they made in conjunction with the US. This flew under everybody's radar and it puts Netanyahu into a really bad spot. Either he backs out and thus shows everyone where he really stands and what he wants to do (namely killing all the Palestinians) an thus potentially giving Biden a way out of the suicide-pact the US has going with Israel or Netanyahu accepts and Palestine actually has a chance for a future.

Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2024 2:10 pm I hope your right, Madner Kami, because everything I've seen suggests that Biden is 100% committed beyond the occaisional half-hearted finger-wagging and "concern".

phantom000 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2024 1:52 am What upsets me is that the UN has had to strong arm Israel to allow humanitarian aid to displaced Palestiniains.

What concerns me is that the Israeli war effort doesn't seem have any kind of goal aside from wrecking as much of Palestine as it possibly can.

If you don't know what you're trying to achieve how can you tell if you're winning or losing?

Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2024 3:03 am Yeah. "Winning" for them is measured by the body count, nothing else.

phantom000 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2024 1:19 pm

Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2024 3:03 am Yeah. "Winning" for them is measured by the body count, nothing else.

And that's not a goal because there will always be more. Netanyahu is already trying to pick a fight with Lebanon and Syria so he he will have another war to fight once he crushes Palestine. He says he wants to remove anyone who can threaten Israel which makes me laugh because he's going to do that is if he conquers the entire world. Everyone can threaten everyone else, it's called MAD.