Tim Sweeny says to get dem poltiks out his games!

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Re: Tim Sweeny says to get dem poltiks out his games!

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JoeThree wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 4:03 pm
Draco Dracul wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 2:56 pm
JoeThree wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 11:24 am
Draco Dracul wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 3:14 am
JoeThree wrote: Sat May 09, 2020 8:20 am
Draco Dracul wrote: Sat May 09, 2020 3:51 am
JoeThree wrote: Fri May 08, 2020 10:15 pm
GreyICE wrote: Fri May 08, 2020 7:54 pm Disney is the great king of virtue signalling, if anyone is. Have a very brief gay kiss in the background, or two guys dancing in a split cut. Remove it for the overseas market. Have a black character, have a female character, make sure their role is supporting. Franchises getting too big? Make a film starring a black man or a woman or whatever demographic check box it's getting obvious you're avoiding. Use that as a shield whenever you need to deflect criticism (like when your toy line skips having women, because you're not marketing the toys to girls).

It's immediately obvious that they have demographic focus groups and will pander to anything that they can use to maximize their profit and avoid any controversy with well-placed fig leaves. It's not so much that they're sexist or racist, it's just that they're happy to use and even encourage those attitudes, as long as they can make money.
All Leftists are just virtue signalling. There is no consistency to their positions anymore other than "Orange man bad".
If you didn't want people pointing out how shit the president is maybe y'all shouldn't have elected the Beast.
How exactly is he bad? What has he done that you personally disapprove of?
He's a racist, has a long history of defrauding his business partners, has destroyed historical artifacts in defiance of court orders, he has a history of credible sexual assault accusations, defrauded his customers in multiple businesses like Trump University, he set up a fake charity, and he tricked his senile father into cutting his late brother's family out of their share of the inheritance while holding his sick nephew's well being over them to prevent them from disputing the will and that's all before he was given power. As president he's put thousands into concentration camps, he's used his position to enrich himself, he's enacted policy against the LGBT community, he's engaged it open corruption including trying to pressure foreign governments into forging evidence against political rivals, he's engaged in political purges replacing those that do not bow to his every whim with incompetent cronies, and he actively delayed efforts to fight Corona virus in the US among other things.
Ok, here's where I blow your mind: You're right about a lot of that... and wrong about a little of it. He's not a racist, he's very much the opposite. That's my first contention.
Then you are in active denial because his history of racism goes back to the 70s when he was sued for racist rental policies. He's made comments on not wanting black accountants and has said that he cannot be tried fairly by a judge just because said judge is Latino.
The only action he's taken against the LGBT that I'm aware of is the no-Trans in the military thing. Is there anything else?, because I personally see no issue on that order.
You don't see any problem denying people fit for service the right to serve?

I disagree. He wanted to have the Bidens investigated because Biden and his son are corrupt. But I doubt we'll see eye to eye on this.
No he wanted the appearance of an investigation to smear a rival, not only extorting the investigation out of Ukraine, but specifically demanding the announcement of the investigation.
You know nothing of concentration camps, so don't throw that term around.
It's calling a spade a spade and people Americans put in concentration camps in the 40s, like George Takei, agree with me on that point. They aren't death camps, but they are the textbook definition of concentration camps and have been deliberately been allowed to degrade in quality because Trump sees them a weapon of terror against immigrants.
He immediately wanted to close borders with China and the Left called him a racist for it. So he didn't. Now they complain he delayed.
This is a red herring as by the time Trump first proposed closing boarders it was already in Washington state. Additionally trump delayed our testing apparatus to the point that we only found out that community transmission was occurring by doctors in Washington defying CDC guidelines set by the administration.
All the rest? Yeah, he's a ruthless, nasty, manipulative son of a bitch. That's why I'm glad he's on our side.
I assume you mean the Republican side as he is very clearly not on Americans side as he has actively damaged our institutions and our standing on the world stage.
I disagree that he's exclusively on the Republican side. I was a Libertarian before Trump. What he's done for the Black community that wants to work has been amazing. He might be a racist, but I thank the man that got me off the vote plantation.
Can you actually give an example of what he's done to help? Because the economy we've had has mostly been the same economy that we had under Obama. And right now minority owned businesses are getting proportionate less relief funding than white owned businesses.
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Draco Dracul wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 5:38 pmAnd right now minority owned businesses are getting proportionate less relief funding than white owned businesses.
Is this an actual statistic or assessment by a notable figure?
..What mirror universe?
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BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 5:43 pm
Draco Dracul wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 5:38 pmAnd right now minority owned businesses are getting proportionate less relief funding than white owned businesses.
Is this an actual statistic or assessment by a notable figure?
I've seen estimates as as as 90% of minority owned businesses being shut out.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/women-minority-business-owners-paycheck-protection-program-loans/
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Draco Dracul wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 5:57 pm
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 5:43 pm
Draco Dracul wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 5:38 pmAnd right now minority owned businesses are getting proportionate less relief funding than white owned businesses.
Is this an actual statistic or assessment by a notable figure?
I've seen estimates as as as 90% of minority owned businesses being shut out.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/women-minority-business-owners-paycheck-protection-program-loans/
I thank you.
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JoeThree wrote: Sat May 09, 2020 8:20 am
Draco Dracul wrote: Sat May 09, 2020 3:51 am
JoeThree wrote: Fri May 08, 2020 10:15 pm
GreyICE wrote: Fri May 08, 2020 7:54 pm Disney is the great king of virtue signalling, if anyone is. Have a very brief gay kiss in the background, or two guys dancing in a split cut. Remove it for the overseas market. Have a black character, have a female character, make sure their role is supporting. Franchises getting too big? Make a film starring a black man or a woman or whatever demographic check box it's getting obvious you're avoiding. Use that as a shield whenever you need to deflect criticism (like when your toy line skips having women, because you're not marketing the toys to girls).

It's immediately obvious that they have demographic focus groups and will pander to anything that they can use to maximize their profit and avoid any controversy with well-placed fig leaves. It's not so much that they're sexist or racist, it's just that they're happy to use and even encourage those attitudes, as long as they can make money.
All Leftists are just virtue signalling. There is no consistency to their positions anymore other than "Orange man bad".
If you didn't want people pointing out how shit the president is maybe y'all shouldn't have elected the Beast.
How exactly is he bad? What has he done that you personally disapprove of?
Every single thing about him, from his large political actions to his personal habits, is utterly repulsive. I only know he's not the AntiChrist because he's not likeable or charismatic enough.

He can't operate charities in the state of New York because he embezzled money from a nonprofit for children with cancer.
He refuses to wear masks during this pandemic even when he visited a mask factor.
His speeches are full of rambling word salad nonsense that makes Biden seem lucid and eloquent.
He likes to eat his steaks well-done with ketchup.
He brags about grabbing women by the pussy.
He continues to personally enrich himself by the presidency.
He's a terrible businessman who ran MULTIPLE casinos into the ground and frequently doesn't pay his workers and he would be dead in a gutter if he hadn't started off life with daddy's multi-million dollar loans.
He told people to stop the virus by going out in the sunlight and injecting bleach.
With apologies to Chuck, it is scientifically proven that every time he opens his fat gob, a fairy slits its wrists.
He cares about himself and his own ego more than anyone or anything.
He will lie, not like a politician, but badly, boldly, to your face, and then contradict it a day later and say he was never lying.

But why bother? Because if you don't see why "orange man bad", you've obviously invested your self-worth and worldview in him so heavily that you will ignore any bad thing about him. There is no line he could cross that would make you abandon him.

For your own good, please remember that this man would happily sell you to snuff film makers for one lukewarm diet coke.
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JoeThree wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 11:24 am
Draco Dracul wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 3:14 am
JoeThree wrote: Sat May 09, 2020 8:20 am
Draco Dracul wrote: Sat May 09, 2020 3:51 am
JoeThree wrote: Fri May 08, 2020 10:15 pm
GreyICE wrote: Fri May 08, 2020 7:54 pm Disney is the great king of virtue signalling, if anyone is. Have a very brief gay kiss in the background, or two guys dancing in a split cut. Remove it for the overseas market. Have a black character, have a female character, make sure their role is supporting. Franchises getting too big? Make a film starring a black man or a woman or whatever demographic check box it's getting obvious you're avoiding. Use that as a shield whenever you need to deflect criticism (like when your toy line skips having women, because you're not marketing the toys to girls).

It's immediately obvious that they have demographic focus groups and will pander to anything that they can use to maximize their profit and avoid any controversy with well-placed fig leaves. It's not so much that they're sexist or racist, it's just that they're happy to use and even encourage those attitudes, as long as they can make money.
All Leftists are just virtue signalling. There is no consistency to their positions anymore other than "Orange man bad".
If you didn't want people pointing out how shit the president is maybe y'all shouldn't have elected the Beast.
How exactly is he bad? What has he done that you personally disapprove of?
You know nothing of concentration camps, so don't throw that term around.
I'm willing to bet you don't know much about concentration camps either. You know who does?

George Takei, who grew up in one. He says they are concentration camps.
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Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 5:06 amI'm willing to bet you don't know much about concentration camps either. You know who does?

George Takei, who grew up in one. He says they are concentration camps.
No he didn't and he does not know what he is talking about. Japanese Detainment Camps in the US during WW2 were certainly no fun place to be by any stretch of the imagination, but a concentration camp is something different. It's outright rage-inducing how often people bring this word up, who don't have the faintest idea of what it actually means, as none of them have even visited Auschwitz or Buchenwald, seen the exhibitions there, seen the footage from what the soldiers finding these camps recorded. The mountains of shoes, the rooms full of lugage, the piles of... discarded flesh and bone...

I fail to find a word discribing the mixture of anger, sadness and outrage I feel, when people throw that word around as if they understood what it means when they don't have the faintest idea. Neither does he. You don't either. Just stop. Just shut up and think for one moment...

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The term "concentration camp" is a bit broader and hazier in meaning than your direct-murder driven Nazi death camp. Recently read about it actually. https://getpocket.com/explore/item/it-s-a-place-where-they-try-to-destroy-you-why-concentration-camps-are-still-with-us?utm_source=pocket-newtab

So you don't need to choke the sky with crematorium ashes to be a concentration camp. Rounding up a huge amount of people in a crowded space with limited access to sanitation in a legal limbo can be enough. And if, while being denied access to healthcare and cleaning facilities, and crammed in like sardines, an airborne virus should happen to travel through the population like shit through a goose...well, that's nothing on us, right?
Anne Frank died from a flu due to unsanitary conditions and lack of medical care, not in the gas chambers.
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Yeah, there's a name for death camps. They're called... death camps. Concentration camps are internment camps that target sections of the population for prolonged periods (usually indefinite).

The Nazis had both varieties, because they were charming people.
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Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 1:14 pm Anne Frank died from a flu due to unsanitary conditions and lack of medical care, not in the gas chambers.
Not the flu, typhus, a disease carried by body lice which unlike the air born flu can only live in unsanitary conditions.
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