Florida governor refuses to recognise transgender swimmer

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Re: Florida governor refuses to recognise transgender swimmer

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Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Fri Apr 08, 2022 8:35 pm
Frustration wrote: Fri Apr 08, 2022 4:27 pm So you don't think that women want places where they can retreat from men, and get instant backup if they're followed?
There's no history of men claiming to be transgender going into restrooms to assault women. It's a complete transphobic fantasy used to cause real harm to transgender women, and it's why I'm suspicious whenever I see people like you talking about athletic ability, because it's never really about the athletes. Sooner or later you show your true colors and pull the Man-in-a-Dress changing room boogeyman card.
I read one case where this actually happened. I think it was about a man dressing up as a woman and using his purse to videotape women using the toilet. Maybe I can dig it up. Been awhile.

That's the only case I know of.

The whole bathroom bullshit is way overblown. Women jump into male bathrooms all the time. No one is clamoring that is incredibly dangerous.
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McAvoy wrote: Sat Apr 09, 2022 4:28 am
Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Fri Apr 08, 2022 8:35 pm
Frustration wrote: Fri Apr 08, 2022 4:27 pm So you don't think that women want places where they can retreat from men, and get instant backup if they're followed?
There's no history of men claiming to be transgender going into restrooms to assault women. It's a complete transphobic fantasy used to cause real harm to transgender women, and it's why I'm suspicious whenever I see people like you talking about athletic ability, because it's never really about the athletes. Sooner or later you show your true colors and pull the Man-in-a-Dress changing room boogeyman card.
I read one case where this actually happened. I think it was about a man dressing up as a woman and using his purse to videotape women using the toilet. Maybe I can dig it up. Been awhile.

That's the only case I know of.

The whole bathroom bullshit is way overblown. Women jump into male bathrooms all the time. No one is clamoring that is incredibly dangerous.
Yeah, with 332 million+ in the US, SOMEONE is almost guaranteed to have pulled a stunt like this. But records of such incidents are so sparse, it's likely a non-issue.
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Re: Florida governor refuses to recognise transgender swimmer

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ProfessorDetective wrote: Sun Apr 10, 2022 4:56 am
McAvoy wrote: Sat Apr 09, 2022 4:28 am
Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Fri Apr 08, 2022 8:35 pm
Frustration wrote: Fri Apr 08, 2022 4:27 pm So you don't think that women want places where they can retreat from men, and get instant backup if they're followed?
There's no history of men claiming to be transgender going into restrooms to assault women. It's a complete transphobic fantasy used to cause real harm to transgender women, and it's why I'm suspicious whenever I see people like you talking about athletic ability, because it's never really about the athletes. Sooner or later you show your true colors and pull the Man-in-a-Dress changing room boogeyman card.
I read one case where this actually happened. I think it was about a man dressing up as a woman and using his purse to videotape women using the toilet. Maybe I can dig it up. Been awhile.

That's the only case I know of.

The whole bathroom bullshit is way overblown. Women jump into male bathrooms all the time. No one is clamoring that is incredibly dangerous.
Yeah, with 332 million+ in the US, SOMEONE is almost guaranteed to have pulled a stunt like this. But records of such incidents are so sparse, it's likely a non-issue.
Yep. One incident where that exact fear did happen yet they act like it happens more often.

I am very certain that 99.9998% of the trans community just want to use the bathroom without judgment or violence.

It was never about the bathroom anyway. Just one more excuse to fuck with the trans community really.
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Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Fri Apr 08, 2022 4:09 pm
Frustration wrote: Fri Apr 08, 2022 3:53 pm Draco Dracul, why do you think there are customs surrounding who can enter restrooms? And how do you think they are enforced?
How do YOU think they are enforced?

See, this is why I keep my guard up. Sure it starts talking about grip strength and athletic advantage but somehow it always boils down to "men in dresses will use this as a pretense to rape women in the shitter".
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Are you suggesting that this man is acting in bad faith and I should stop trying to engage with him?
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I'm not the one who brought up restrooms. I do, however, note that there are women who are very disturbed by the threatened removal of female-only spaces.

The arguments about athletic performance have not yet been addressed. Try concerning yourself with them, before changing the subject.
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I didn't change the subject to restrooms, blorbo. I responded to it.
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McAvoy wrote: Sat Apr 09, 2022 4:28 am
Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Fri Apr 08, 2022 8:35 pm
Frustration wrote: Fri Apr 08, 2022 4:27 pm So you don't think that women want places where they can retreat from men, and get instant backup if they're followed?
There's no history of men claiming to be transgender going into restrooms to assault women. It's a complete transphobic fantasy used to cause real harm to transgender women, and it's why I'm suspicious whenever I see people like you talking about athletic ability, because it's never really about the athletes. Sooner or later you show your true colors and pull the Man-in-a-Dress changing room boogeyman card.
I read one case where this actually happened. I think it was about a man dressing up as a woman and using his purse to videotape women using the toilet. Maybe I can dig it up. Been awhile.

That's the only case I know of.

The whole bathroom bullshit is way overblown. Women jump into male bathrooms all the time. No one is clamoring that is incredibly dangerous.
Because women don't rape men.

"Ooh! Let me pull out of my ass this one story of this one woman who..."

Yeah, whatever. 99.9% of women do not rape men.

Which is why, btw, there very, VERY few FTM who are loudly saying they want to use male toilets, changing rooms or prisons. It's always the other way around... what a... coincidence. Yes, that's the word.
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clearspira wrote: Wed Apr 13, 2022 9:25 am
McAvoy wrote: Sat Apr 09, 2022 4:28 am
Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Fri Apr 08, 2022 8:35 pm
Frustration wrote: Fri Apr 08, 2022 4:27 pm So you don't think that women want places where they can retreat from men, and get instant backup if they're followed?
There's no history of men claiming to be transgender going into restrooms to assault women. It's a complete transphobic fantasy used to cause real harm to transgender women, and it's why I'm suspicious whenever I see people like you talking about athletic ability, because it's never really about the athletes. Sooner or later you show your true colors and pull the Man-in-a-Dress changing room boogeyman card.
I read one case where this actually happened. I think it was about a man dressing up as a woman and using his purse to videotape women using the toilet. Maybe I can dig it up. Been awhile.

That's the only case I know of.

The whole bathroom bullshit is way overblown. Women jump into male bathrooms all the time. No one is clamoring that is incredibly dangerous.
Because women don't rape men.

"Ooh! Let me pull out of my ass this one story of this one woman who..."

Yeah, whatever. 99.9% of women do not rape men.

Which is why, btw, there very, VERY few FTM who are loudly saying they want to use male toilets, changing rooms or prisons. It's always the other way around... what a... coincidence. Yes, that's the word.
There's no noise because they there isn't a whole loud hate movement trying to stop them. They just do it and nobody cares.

That's the UK definition of rape where it's physiologically impossible for a cis woman to rape anyone, I assume?
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Re: Florida governor refuses to recognise transgender swimmer

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clearspira wrote: Wed Apr 13, 2022 9:25 am
McAvoy wrote: Sat Apr 09, 2022 4:28 am
Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Fri Apr 08, 2022 8:35 pm
Frustration wrote: Fri Apr 08, 2022 4:27 pm So you don't think that women want places where they can retreat from men, and get instant backup if they're followed?
There's no history of men claiming to be transgender going into restrooms to assault women. It's a complete transphobic fantasy used to cause real harm to transgender women, and it's why I'm suspicious whenever I see people like you talking about athletic ability, because it's never really about the athletes. Sooner or later you show your true colors and pull the Man-in-a-Dress changing room boogeyman card.
I read one case where this actually happened. I think it was about a man dressing up as a woman and using his purse to videotape women using the toilet. Maybe I can dig it up. Been awhile.

That's the only case I know of.

The whole bathroom bullshit is way overblown. Women jump into male bathrooms all the time. No one is clamoring that is incredibly dangerous.
Because women don't rape men.

"Ooh! Let me pull out of my ass this one story of this one woman who..."

Yeah, whatever. 99.9% of women do not rape men.

Which is why, btw, there very, VERY few FTM who are loudly saying they want to use male toilets, changing rooms or prisons. It's always the other way around... what a... coincidence. Yes, that's the word.
I mean that's because all the media attention is on trans women. One of the big ways that trans men are discriminated against is by invisible, thier issues are basically never brought up except when TERFs are infantilizing them. Trans men do use men's restrooms, locker rooms, etc.

The reason trans women bring it up is that the media hyper focuses on us. I mean fuck there have been repeated cases where trans men dominating women's sports have been used as justification for banning trans women from women's sports. Pro tip the guy that won all those women's wrestling events in Texas, he was actually gendered correctly by the media because he is a trans man who wanted to compete in men's wrestling.
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