Coronavirus - the new pandemic

[GreyICE]

US has the most big cities in the world.

You know, I love the rah rah America shit, but this isn't true. China has passed us a while back.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_in_China_by_population

LA would slot in at #28, and is the second biggest city in America.

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

US has the most big cities in the world.

You know, I love the rah rah America shit, but this isn't true. China has passed us a while back.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_in_China_by_population

LA would slot in at #28, and is the second biggest city in America.

Rah rah?

Also when you're talking about something like outbreaks and death rates that aren't very apparent without a slew of compounded data sets, and then knock on PRC's door asking about their numbers, you're not likely to get the most reliable information.

Not to mention that China's governmental arm tends to get a pretty firm grip on its public, just historically speaking. Which is definitely would be a positive thing despite authoritarial implications.

[GreyICE]

Also when you're talking about something like outbreaks and death rates that aren't very apparent without a slew of compounded data sets, and then knock on PRC's door asking about their numbers, you're not likely to get the most reliable information.

Not to mention that China's governmental arm tends to get a pretty firm grip on its public, just historically speaking. Which is definitely would be a positive thing despite authoritarial implications.

Oh I know China lies like a rug. But we're far from having the most big cities in the world. We're not even number two, that goes to India (which is having some serious problems that are only getting worse).

The point is the United States isn't really unique anymore in these regards. With the EU and the free travel situation, we might not even be third if we count them in.

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

Also when you're talking about something like outbreaks and death rates that aren't very apparent without a slew of compounded data sets, and then knock on PRC's door asking about their numbers, you're not likely to get the most reliable information.

Not to mention that China's governmental arm tends to get a pretty firm grip on its public, just historically speaking. Which is definitely would be a positive thing despite authoritarial implications.

Oh I know China lies like a rug. But we're far from having the most big cities in the world. We're not even number two, that goes to India (which is having some serious problems that are only getting worse).

The point is the United States isn't really unique anymore in these regards. With the EU and the free travel situation, we might not even be third if we count them in.

Well I mean it wasn't really a pinnacle measure or anything. The more cities you have the more outbreaks you'll have.

Let's just take what the US is being compared to: Canada (good for geographical comparison), Italy (good for severe outbreak recovery), South Korea (good to make anyone else look bad), and the UK (similar flag colors). None of them compare on the measure of vast metropolitan areas.

China I think exhibits a flattening curve, but it's inscrutable data and they're the opposite of the US in terms of sovereign province rights. India on the other hand has a billion+ and is still rising as well. So I mean, who are we comparing the US too?

[GreyICE]

Well I mean it wasn't really a pinnacle measure or anything. The more cities you have the more outbreaks you'll have.

Let's just take what the US is being compared to: Canada (good for geographical comparison), Italy (good for severe outbreak recovery), South Korea (good to make anyone else look bad), and the UK (similar flag colors). None of them compare on the measure of vast metropolitan areas.

China I think exhibits a flattening curve, but it's inscrutable data and they're the opposite of the US in terms of sovereign province rights. India on the other hand has a billion+ and is still rising as well. So I mean, who are we comparing the US too?

We could compare to the EU, another first world set of locations, with a lot of individual local policies, free travel between borders, and a lot of the same issues as the US.

We could even compare EU states to US states.

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

Yep I agree about good old EU. Slightly bigger population, slightly smaller case count.

I'm still trying to get consistent comparison stats between them, that was only the first.

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

EU vs US states (omit count Russia)

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

My Canadian friend was horrified to find out the stimulus check is only $12000 and a one-time deal. It's like she's never lived in a failed state run by a blathering cartoon villain! xD

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

My Canadian friend was horrified to find out the stimulus check is only $12000 and a one-time deal. It's like she's never lived in a failed state run by a blathering cartoon villain! xD

I like to imagine that she really did think that a figure 10x what we got was pretty desolate.

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

Whoops, meant 1200. Typo. ^^; point still stands.

Anyway, When Essential Workers Earn Less Than The Jobless: 'We Put The Country On Our Back'

https://www.npr.org/2020/07/01/882957793/when-essential-workers-earn-less-than-the-jobless-we-put-the-country-on-our-back