Rich People are Evil

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Re: Rich People are Evil

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Slash Gallagher wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 5:41 am
Steve wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 3:55 am
Slash Gallagher wrote: Thu May 17, 2018 7:49 am
SlackerinDeNile wrote: Wed May 16, 2018 5:51 pm That's a very good point Slash but I'm afraid I don't have any practical answers or suggestions for most of those kinds of issues. They're annoyingly complex.
Free spech absolutism, simple, imperfect and sometimes annoying. The only way.
It does make it easier for reprehensible people to make themselves known so we can ignore them accordingly.
I honestly don't think there are a lot of those within the US.
are you serious? Go look at a reddit thread or the comments for a youtube video.
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Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Mon May 21, 2018 1:57 am
Slash Gallagher wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 5:41 am
Steve wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 3:55 am
Slash Gallagher wrote: Thu May 17, 2018 7:49 am
SlackerinDeNile wrote: Wed May 16, 2018 5:51 pm That's a very good point Slash but I'm afraid I don't have any practical answers or suggestions for most of those kinds of issues. They're annoyingly complex.
Free spech absolutism, simple, imperfect and sometimes annoying. The only way.
It does make it easier for reprehensible people to make themselves known so we can ignore them accordingly.
I honestly don't think there are a lot of those within the US.
are you serious? Go look at a reddit thread or the comments for a youtube video.
So?

20 regular users pretend they are an army.

The US is a plus 300 mil country.
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Look up the statistics on KKK membership. Look up the stats on anti-semitic hate crimes. There are LOTS of reprehensible people and you need to recognize that.
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Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Tue May 22, 2018 1:29 am Look up the statistics on KKK membership. Look up the stats on anti-semitic hate crimes. There are LOTS of reprehensible people and you need to recognize that.
That is not lots in a national context.
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I wouldn't call them evil. Out of touch with the lower classes, and with a higher breeding potential for sociopathic tendencies and lack of empathy maybe. When you want for nothing, you can get a bit arrogant or elitist.
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Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Tue May 22, 2018 1:29 am Look up the statistics on KKK membership.
The SPLC estimates that there are between 5 and 8 thousand KKK members, split between dozens of unaffiliated and often warring sects. There are ~325 million people in the US. That means that we're looking at ~0.002% of the US population belonging to the KKK.

They're not exactly a power player.
Look up the stats on anti-semitic hate crimes. There are LOTS of reprehensible people and you need to recognize that.
The ADL puts out a report every year on anti-semitism. In 2017, they recorded 1,015 cases of harassment, 952 cases of vandalism, and 19 assaults. Now, obviously, these numbers are too high, in the sense that anything above 0 is too high, but there are ~5.5 million Jews in the US. With a total number of antisemitic incidents in 2017 coming in at 1,986, that means an individual has ~.036% chance of being a victim of one of these incidents.

There are reprehensible people in the world, but not as many as you might think. At least, here in the US.
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Yukaphile wrote: Tue Jul 03, 2018 8:04 pm I wouldn't call them evil. Out of touch with the lower classes, and with a higher breeding potential for sociopathic tendencies and lack of empathy maybe. When you want for nothing, you can get a bit arrogant or elitist.
Care to back up that claim of their "breeding potential"?
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Yukaphile wrote: Tue Jul 03, 2018 8:04 pm I wouldn't call them evil. Out of touch with the lower classes, and with a higher breeding potential for sociopathic tendencies and lack of empathy maybe. When you want for nothing, you can get a bit arrogant or elitist.
That describes the current leading press minus the higher breeding potential.
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Simple. When you want for nothing, you take it for granted, and depending on how you're raised, can be snobbish towards people who have less. I do know many who are born into wealth and run their companies with the idea of ruthlessly acquiring profit in mind and see their workers as an expense rather than an asset are very like sociopaths.
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Yukaphile wrote: Thu Jul 05, 2018 10:04 am Simple. When you want for nothing, you take it for granted, and depending on how you're raised, can be snobbish towards people who have less. I do know many who are born into wealth and run their companies with the idea of ruthlessly acquiring profit in mind and see their workers as an expense rather than an asset are very like sociopaths.
This is sometimes true and sometimes results in people who spend their entire lives working for charitable organizations and to help others. There's a moment in Vampyr where the protagonist, a rich doctor, is called out by a trade unionist. She basically gives the "rich people are evil" speech and talks all about the societal ills.

Reid points out the only relief the people are getting right now is not from the democratically elected government (which is controlled by corporations yes) but the rich people donating large portions of their funds to charitable causes. Also, he's down there treating people for illness for free.

Which fit with "society is complicated" as a theme that I agree with.
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