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https://www.apnews.com/26c7aeb48fda4a168232241714e8d775

So yeah, Walmart just pulled down the posters and movie displays out of respect in light of recent events. But it's also untrue what I said earlier about them apparently stopping selling the games and stuff.

A lot of people are unhappy with the decision because they want them to stop selling guns instead, but I don't feel like they should be obligated in particular. World would be better if anyone that could decide to stop selling guns did of course, though I am in favor of more sweeping action in terms of applying to everybody. That is assuming of course that there are appropriate levels of control, and of course I don't know for certain that there are. And just to be honest, I wouldn't mind in the slightest if more gun control measures were put in place (though I know that that can be seen as a futile measure to expect). All that being said, I don't see taking down said violent posters and video displays as a "bad thing."
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clearspira wrote: Sat Aug 10, 2019 12:35 pm Remember: We live in a world where the nipple is illegal but you can buy products that glorify the killing of your fellow man perfectly legally.

I'm just saying we have strange morals is all.
How does the gun glorify killing other human beings exactly?

BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Sat Aug 10, 2019 5:16 pm
Madner Kami wrote: Sat Aug 10, 2019 4:24 pm
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Sat Aug 10, 2019 2:50 pm Buut, I find it at the very least a kind gesture to take down Red Dead Redemption posters in our current climate.
And this is supposed to achieve what exactly?
I'm not speaking to it solving anything as far as violence.

It's understandable though that the regular occurrences of such events over the last 2 years have led to a shifting of sensibilities regarding potential violence in public spaces. Taking down a life-size poster of a bearded outlaw holding a double-barreled shotgun at its marketed audience, and especially just anybody walking by, is a sensible thing to do imo, despite either freedom of speech advocates or w/ever crying that Walmart "shouldn't have to" or even corporate marketing motivations.

edit: I should note that I haven't heard anything from freedom of speech people, but yeah people are getting mad hearing about this because it doesn't solve gun violence.
i be they did not do it in the 70s with all it's bombings and gang violence.
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Karha of Honor wrote: Sun Aug 11, 2019 7:19 am
clearspira wrote: Sat Aug 10, 2019 12:35 pm Remember: We live in a world where the nipple is illegal but you can buy products that glorify the killing of your fellow man perfectly legally.

I'm just saying we have strange morals is all.
How does the gun glorify killing other human beings exactly?

BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Sat Aug 10, 2019 5:16 pm
Madner Kami wrote: Sat Aug 10, 2019 4:24 pm
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Sat Aug 10, 2019 2:50 pm Buut, I find it at the very least a kind gesture to take down Red Dead Redemption posters in our current climate.
And this is supposed to achieve what exactly?
I'm not speaking to it solving anything as far as violence.

It's understandable though that the regular occurrences of such events over the last 2 years have led to a shifting of sensibilities regarding potential violence in public spaces. Taking down a life-size poster of a bearded outlaw holding a double-barreled shotgun at its marketed audience, and especially just anybody walking by, is a sensible thing to do imo, despite either freedom of speech advocates or w/ever crying that Walmart "shouldn't have to" or even corporate marketing motivations.

edit: I should note that I haven't heard anything from freedom of speech people, but yeah people are getting mad hearing about this because it doesn't solve gun violence.
i be they did not do it in the 70s with all it's bombings and gang violence.
I was talking about videogames and films mostly.
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BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Sun Aug 11, 2019 5:19 amSo yeah, Walmart just pulled down the posters and movie displays out of respect in light of recent events. But it's also untrue what I said earlier about them apparently stopping selling the games and stuff.
Respect my ass. It's a marketing attempt and nothing more. It's the corporate equivalent to "sending thoughts and prayers". At best, it's a pointless zero effort, zero investment "comittment", at worst it's a mockery and active attempt to divert efforts of really solving the issue at hand. It's flat out malicious in every way.
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Madner Kami wrote: Sun Aug 11, 2019 11:15 am
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Sun Aug 11, 2019 5:19 amSo yeah, Walmart just pulled down the posters and movie displays out of respect in light of recent events. But it's also untrue what I said earlier about them apparently stopping selling the games and stuff.
Respect my ass. It's a marketing attempt and nothing more. It's the corporate equivalent to "sending thoughts and prayers". At best, it's a pointless zero effort, zero investment "comittment", at worst it's a mockery and active attempt to divert efforts of really solving the issue at hand. It's flat out malicious in every way.
It's not a bigger issue than gang violence or familycides.
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Karha of Honor wrote: Sun Aug 11, 2019 11:21 am
Madner Kami wrote: Sun Aug 11, 2019 11:15 am
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Sun Aug 11, 2019 5:19 amSo yeah, Walmart just pulled down the posters and movie displays out of respect in light of recent events. But it's also untrue what I said earlier about them apparently stopping selling the games and stuff.
Respect my ass. It's a marketing attempt and nothing more. It's the corporate equivalent to "sending thoughts and prayers". At best, it's a pointless zero effort, zero investment "comittment", at worst it's a mockery and active attempt to divert efforts of really solving the issue at hand. It's flat out malicious in every way.
It's not a bigger issue than gang violence or familycides.
For some one who blames others from strawmans you sure like to make those yourself. It's clear that what Madner Kami said has nothing to do with those two things that you keep mentioning. Like he said that was just marketing attempt from Walmart's side. Pointless act that doesn't help anyone but themselves and those that want to divert attention from any attempt to solve issue. Just like you are trying to do with that strawman.
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Karha of Honor wrote: Sun Aug 11, 2019 7:19 am
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Sat Aug 10, 2019 5:16 pm
Madner Kami wrote: Sat Aug 10, 2019 4:24 pm
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Sat Aug 10, 2019 2:50 pm Buut, I find it at the very least a kind gesture to take down Red Dead Redemption posters in our current climate.
And this is supposed to achieve what exactly?
I'm not speaking to it solving anything as far as violence.

It's understandable though that the regular occurrences of such events over the last 2 years have led to a shifting of sensibilities regarding potential violence in public spaces. Taking down a life-size poster of a bearded outlaw holding a double-barreled shotgun at its marketed audience, and especially just anybody walking by, is a sensible thing to do imo, despite either freedom of speech advocates or w/ever crying that Walmart "shouldn't have to" or even corporate marketing motivations.

edit: I should note that I haven't heard anything from freedom of speech people, but yeah people are getting mad hearing about this because it doesn't solve gun violence.
i be they did not do it in the 70s with all it's bombings and gang violence.
Was that a national epidemic or something? Pointing to something 40-50 years ago is hardly speculative grounds.
Karha of Honor wrote: Sun Aug 11, 2019 11:21 am
Madner Kami wrote: Sun Aug 11, 2019 11:15 am
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Sun Aug 11, 2019 5:19 amSo yeah, Walmart just pulled down the posters and movie displays out of respect in light of recent events. But it's also untrue what I said earlier about them apparently stopping selling the games and stuff.
Respect my ass. It's a marketing attempt and nothing more. It's the corporate equivalent to "sending thoughts and prayers". At best, it's a pointless zero effort, zero investment "comittment", at worst it's a mockery and active attempt to divert efforts of really solving the issue at hand. It's flat out malicious in every way.
It's not a bigger issue than gang violence or familycides.
Gangs a lot of the time target other gangs.
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Madner Kami wrote: Sun Aug 11, 2019 11:15 am
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Sun Aug 11, 2019 5:19 amSo yeah, Walmart just pulled down the posters and movie displays out of respect in light of recent events. But it's also untrue what I said earlier about them apparently stopping selling the games and stuff.
Respect my ass. It's a marketing attempt and nothing more. It's the corporate equivalent to "sending thoughts and prayers". At best, it's a pointless zero effort, zero investment "comittment", at worst it's a mockery and active attempt to divert efforts of really solving the issue at hand. It's flat out malicious in every way.
Wokeness doesn't care about making money. Gillette has already lost money over their Super Bowl ad and the CEO has said she's proud of the fact. Marvel comics has really taken a nosedive in sales, but all they can do is screech autisticly at the fans they alienated, but persist in ruining that brand because they can only continue to follow their ideology. If a business was really trying to court the "woke" crowd, the joke would be on them, because that crowd isn't going to buy their shit, they'll just feel better about their ideology being adopted by a company.
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BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Sun Aug 11, 2019 4:48 pm
Madner Kami wrote: Sun Aug 11, 2019 11:15 am
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Sun Aug 11, 2019 5:19 amSo yeah, Walmart just pulled down the posters and movie displays out of respect in light of recent events. But it's also untrue what I said earlier about them apparently stopping selling the games and stuff.
Respect my ass. It's a marketing attempt and nothing more. It's the corporate equivalent to "sending thoughts and prayers". At best, it's a pointless zero effort, zero investment "comittment", at worst it's a mockery and active attempt to divert efforts of really solving the issue at hand. It's flat out malicious in every way.
Wokeness doesn't care about making money. Gillette has already lost money over their Super Bowl ad and the CEO has said she's proud of the fact. Marvel comics has really taken a nosedive in sales, but all they can do is screech autisticly at the fans they alienated, but persist in ruining that brand because they can only continue to follow their ideology. If a business was really trying to court the "woke" crowd, the joke would be on them, because that crowd isn't going to buy their shit, they'll just feel better about their ideology being adopted by a company.
I don't think in this case it's about "wokeness" since people that they tried to please with this stunt are conservatives that much rather have scapegoat than think actual solutions to problems. It's diversion tactic, that's what it is. They know that video games won't be going any were and is multi billion dollar industry so they didn't risk angering video game industry by doing that.
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Mecha82 wrote: Sun Aug 11, 2019 5:22 pm
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Sun Aug 11, 2019 4:48 pm
Madner Kami wrote: Sun Aug 11, 2019 11:15 am
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Sun Aug 11, 2019 5:19 amSo yeah, Walmart just pulled down the posters and movie displays out of respect in light of recent events. But it's also untrue what I said earlier about them apparently stopping selling the games and stuff.
Respect my ass. It's a marketing attempt and nothing more. It's the corporate equivalent to "sending thoughts and prayers". At best, it's a pointless zero effort, zero investment "comittment", at worst it's a mockery and active attempt to divert efforts of really solving the issue at hand. It's flat out malicious in every way.
Wokeness doesn't care about making money. Gillette has already lost money over their Super Bowl ad and the CEO has said she's proud of the fact. Marvel comics has really taken a nosedive in sales, but all they can do is screech autisticly at the fans they alienated, but persist in ruining that brand because they can only continue to follow their ideology. If a business was really trying to court the "woke" crowd, the joke would be on them, because that crowd isn't going to buy their shit, they'll just feel better about their ideology being adopted by a company.
people that they tried to please with this stunt are conservatives that much rather have scapegoat than think actual solutions to problems.
Where are you coming from with this? Speculation about their true motives, or did somebody say something official?

On a bipartisan level, taking down violent video game posters is a pretty discrete measure carried out to be considered a deceitful political stunt. It's not like they have a giant promotional agenda with signs in front of the store saying "NOW TAKING DOWN VIOLENT POSTERS!". It's surely not something that's going to bolster their profit margins much or anything.

And really, factoring in whether or not this solves gun violence is just silly. As if every response by one corporation is supposed to have some tangible effect in the form of a solution, especially with heavy scrutiny over marketing decisions pointing squarely to greed and propaganda.
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