Coronavirus - the new pandemic

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

I'd say it's more on vaccine rejecters than people who get vaccinated. People who believe vaccines are good at least clear an admittedly ankle-height bar.

[McAvoy]

I'd say it's more on vaccine rejecters than people who get vaccinated. People who believe vaccines are good at least clear an admittedly ankle-height bar.

Gotta love how believing in science is considered a negative in some circles.

[Frustration]

Gotta love how believing in science is considered a negative in some circles.

Science is neither a religion nor an ideology; it doesn't require "belief".

It does need to be practiced, and there are quite a few people who give it lip service while ignoring the actual science.

[McAvoy]

Gotta love how believing in science is considered a negative in some circles.

Science is neither a religion nor an ideology; it doesn't require "belief".

It does need to be practiced, and there are quite a few people who give it lip service while ignoring the actual science.

Yes. Tell me something else I do know.

In a world where science is accepted throughout there would be no need to say I believe in science. It would be just accepted. Belief implies accepting something in that has no evidence, having faith.

Which in general gives their is some religious undertone in science which it shouldn't.

Why do we say believe in science then? Probably because we have to say believe in climate change, belive in evolution, believe in a greater much older universe of billions and billions of worlds.

So we got people who reject that, reject science and believe in something else, always based on religion.

It's OK to be skeptical about science obviously. That's part of science. Not OK to be skeptical about let's say gravity because you can't see it. Or that the most accepted theory of why dinosaurs died was due to an asteroid but to be skeptical because no one witnessed it?

Covid just showcased how many people distrust science because it's always changing. Ideas that was thought to work may not work and therefore all of the following science afterwards should be suspect as well. Doesn't help it is political as hell now.

Funny thing is the trend of climate change. Originally, those in the camp of its not 'real' are rapidly diminishing. As in nowadays its accepted the climate change is happening but not because humans are doing it.

So yes there is a belief in science. Most people who are into science don't believe in it, they accept it. Even if they have no knowledge of how science got from point A to point B or more realistically point P-12A-3.

[Frustration]

Yet you ignore the actual research findings about the nature of the efficacy of Covid vaccines, and persist in acting as though they had properties they do not.

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

Yet you ignore the actual research findings about the nature of the efficacy of Covid vaccines, and persist in acting as though they had properties they do not.

I don't see anybody ever arguing that vaccines are fully effective. It's never an argument by the scientific community.

It's also not the same as misinformation arguing against the efficacy or warning of the dangers of vaccines.

[Frustration]

It's not an issue of their being "fully effective"?

Why do you keep arguing against ridiculous strawmen, instead of arguing against the actual issue of contention? (Besides the obvious reason that you don't want to acknowledge, of course.)

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

Well, after rolling back protective measures, the virus is spiking again. Like yiffing clockwork.

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

It's not an issue of their being "fully effective"?

Why do you keep arguing against ridiculous strawmen, instead of arguing against the actual issue of contention? (Besides the obvious reason that you don't want to acknowledge, of course.)

It's my recollection of what you've said about vaccines. That they're not fully effective and that people think they are.

If that's not it, then what is it you're on specifically please? I believe you also cited inflated case numbers but did not provide sources on it.

[McAvoy]

Yet you ignore the actual research findings about the nature of the efficacy of Covid vaccines, and persist in acting as though they had properties they do not.

Never said any of that.

Good job though on the red herring.