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In 35 states police can claim consent if they fuck the person they are detaining

Posted: Thu May 24, 2018 11:02 pm
by Fuzzy Necromancer
https://www.buzzfeed.com/albertsamaha/t ... .ncxzWeZ5R

So I learned about this event when this 18 year old says the cops raped her while she was detained. I...I don't think you can give meaningful consent when somebody has locked you up and is holding the key. But it's apparently legal in 35 states? Including mine?

Re: In 35 states police can claim consent if they fuck the person they are detaining

Posted: Fri May 25, 2018 2:06 am
by Antiboyscout
So in 15 states a very specific dom/sub fetish is illegal.

Oh no, I guess we'll have to take cases of abuse as they come instead of assuming guilt.

Re: In 35 states police can claim consent if they fuck the person they are detaining

Posted: Fri May 25, 2018 4:14 am
by Fuzzy Necromancer
Police are fully capable of having sex off-duty, which they would do if they were willing to meet the most basic standards of professionalism for everyone except rent-boys and escorts.

People who want to do dom/sub stuff can go to get fuzzy handcuffs from the sex shop and a Sexy Police Uniform from a costume shop.

Changing the law would have a negative effect on nobody who isn't using their power and authority to rape suspects.

Re: In 35 states police can claim consent if they fuck the person they are detaining

Posted: Fri May 25, 2018 3:39 pm
by Antiboyscout
I don't care. The assumption of guilt CANNOT be allowed in the legal system. I don't care if 99% of cases are obvious abuses. NO assumptions.

Re: In 35 states police can claim consent if they fuck the person they are detaining

Posted: Fri May 25, 2018 9:45 pm
by Fuzzy Necromancer
Changing these laws would not REVERSE the presumption of innocence. It's literally just saying "You're not allowed to fuck somebody you cuffed," and like, adding that into the rules for police conduct.

Why do you have such a strong need for police to be allowed to fuck prisoners during working hours? Like, if a policeman arrested you, tossed you in the back of the car, and then asked you for a blowjob, would you feel safe saying "no thank you"?

Re: In 35 states police can claim consent if they fuck the person they are detaining

Posted: Sat May 26, 2018 12:47 am
by Antiboyscout
If this was a matter of conduct I would be fine with it. If you get fired for sex on the job or a detainee then fine. But having it be a law and jail-able offense just for sex, consent or no, is not OK.

Yes I am fine saying no, and more people would if body cameras were more common.

Re: In 35 states police can claim consent if they fuck the person they are detaining

Posted: Sat May 26, 2018 2:24 am
by Fuzzy Necromancer
Well then, I envy you your confidence.
The way I see it, somebody detained by a police officer is no more freely giving their consent to sex than somebody is freely consenting to hand over their wallet to a mugger. Coercion is not consent, and the person slamming you in the back of a paddy wagon is not your friend.

Re: In 35 states police can claim consent if they fuck the person they are detaining

Posted: Sun May 27, 2018 9:14 am
by Madner Kami
Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Sat May 26, 2018 2:24 am Well then, I envy you your confidence.
The way I see it, somebody detained by a police officer is no more freely giving their consent to sex than somebody is freely consenting to hand over their wallet to a mugger. Coercion is not consent, and the person slamming you in the back of a paddy wagon is not your friend.
You are literally not forced to consent in such a situation. A mugger forcing you to give your wallet, is a robber. Someone forcing you to have sex with you, is a rapist. If you do not force someone to have sex with you, you are not a rapist.

Re: In 35 states police can claim consent if they fuck the person they are detaining

Posted: Sun May 27, 2018 12:18 pm
by PapaPalpatine
Consensual or not, an officer of the law should not be fucking anyone who's in police custody; if for no other reason than it's a potential conflict of interest. You can get your jollies on your own time; while you're on the clock, you are expected to conduct yourself like you have some idea what the word "professionalism" means.

Re: In 35 states police can claim consent if they fuck the person they are detaining

Posted: Sun May 27, 2018 1:04 pm
by CharlesPhipps
I wonder how much of this is the old adage of, "Sex to get out of a situation."