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Free Range Children

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 8:49 pm
by Nealithi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRCNNZGlZeA

A touch older but still comes up. Thoughts?

Re: Free Range Children

Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 5:24 am
by Admiral X
Basically the way things used to be, but while this clip blames the media, there's also been a shift in attitude. There are actually laws in some places requiring adult supervision, and even where there aren't, people tend to look down on that. If something bad happened, like one of the examples at the beginning, people will practically grab pitchforks and torches against the parents. Another example would be the shift in attitude toward spanking, or even standing in the corner.

Re: Free Range Children

Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 9:29 pm
by Robovski
I was a free range child. I was pretty much free to do what I wanted from the age of 4 in the small town I was in back in the 70's. I went to the library on my own, my grandmother's, to my friends, to the park... I was Mickey's boy and people knew who I was and I'd often be with friends (who were also my age) doing what we wanted to do essentially unsupervised. And yes, my father would spank me for misbehavior. The past is a different place.

Re: Free Range Children

Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 10:39 pm
by clearspira
A hundred years ago these boys would have been deep in a trench dodging bullets; now we are too scared to let them out down the street on their own lest they scrape a knee. We have become comfortable, with it fat and lazy, and with it scared of the mundane.

Re: Free Range Children

Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2018 12:31 am
by Fuzzy Necromancer
clearspira wrote: Sat Sep 08, 2018 10:39 pm A hundred years ago these boys would have been deep in a trench dodging bullets; now we are too scared to let them out down the street on their own lest they scrape a knee. We have become comfortable, with it fat and lazy, and with it scared of the mundane.
I agree with the core idea of less helicopter parenting and more allowing children free time and exploration, but your reasoning scares me. A lot.

Re: Free Range Children

Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2018 6:30 am
by Worffan101
clearspira wrote: Sat Sep 08, 2018 10:39 pm A hundred years ago these boys would have been deep in a trench dodging bullets; now we are too scared to let them out down the street on their own lest they scrape a knee. We have become comfortable, with it fat and lazy, and with it scared of the mundane.
I think that being overweight is a damn sight better than dodging bullets in a trench, given how badly dodging bullets in a trench tends to fuck people up for life.

Re: Free Range Children

Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2018 3:17 pm
by clearspira
Worffan101 wrote: Sun Sep 09, 2018 6:30 am
clearspira wrote: Sat Sep 08, 2018 10:39 pm A hundred years ago these boys would have been deep in a trench dodging bullets; now we are too scared to let them out down the street on their own lest they scrape a knee. We have become comfortable, with it fat and lazy, and with it scared of the mundane.
I think that being overweight is a damn sight better than dodging bullets in a trench, given how badly dodging bullets in a trench tends to fuck people up for life.
Being fat fucks you up for life too - your very short, forty years of it.

Re: Free Range Children

Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2018 5:28 pm
by Worffan101
clearspira wrote: Sun Sep 09, 2018 3:17 pm
Worffan101 wrote: Sun Sep 09, 2018 6:30 am
clearspira wrote: Sat Sep 08, 2018 10:39 pm A hundred years ago these boys would have been deep in a trench dodging bullets; now we are too scared to let them out down the street on their own lest they scrape a knee. We have become comfortable, with it fat and lazy, and with it scared of the mundane.
I think that being overweight is a damn sight better than dodging bullets in a trench, given how badly dodging bullets in a trench tends to fuck people up for life.
Being fat fucks you up for life too - your very short, forty years of it.
I'd rather have 40 years of being a fat slob than 20 years of being shouted at, beaten, bullied by older posh brats with sticks, whipped for violating an arbitrary boarding-school curfew, and then killed by poison gas in some fucked-up hellhole.

Re: Free Range Children

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2018 6:48 am
by Fuzzy Necromancer
clearspira wrote: Sun Sep 09, 2018 3:17 pm
Worffan101 wrote: Sun Sep 09, 2018 6:30 am
clearspira wrote: Sat Sep 08, 2018 10:39 pm A hundred years ago these boys would have been deep in a trench dodging bullets; now we are too scared to let them out down the street on their own lest they scrape a knee. We have become comfortable, with it fat and lazy, and with it scared of the mundane.
I think that being overweight is a damn sight better than dodging bullets in a trench, given how badly dodging bullets in a trench tends to fuck people up for life.
Being fat fucks you up for life too - your very short, forty years of it.
1. No it doesn't, and there's meta-studies to back that up.
2. Why do you hate fat people so much you'd rather see kids get shot at than be fat?

Re: Free Range Children

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2018 7:14 pm
by clearspira
Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Mon Sep 10, 2018 6:48 am
clearspira wrote: Sun Sep 09, 2018 3:17 pm
Worffan101 wrote: Sun Sep 09, 2018 6:30 am
clearspira wrote: Sat Sep 08, 2018 10:39 pm A hundred years ago these boys would have been deep in a trench dodging bullets; now we are too scared to let them out down the street on their own lest they scrape a knee. We have become comfortable, with it fat and lazy, and with it scared of the mundane.
I think that being overweight is a damn sight better than dodging bullets in a trench, given how badly dodging bullets in a trench tends to fuck people up for life.
Being fat fucks you up for life too - your very short, forty years of it.
1. No it doesn't, and there's meta-studies to back that up.
2. Why do you hate fat people so much you'd rather see kids get shot at than be fat?
Oh, so much crap here and so little time. First off, I never said I hate fat people. That is YOU inferring, or more likely, outright lying for reasons perhaps best left to yourself. What I actually implied was that adversity breeds greatness and comfort breeds sloth.
But that aside, i've got to say that ''meta-studies'' sounds an awful lot like ''I've got some bullshit alternate news source I follow''. But please, tell me how your ''meta-study'' disproves what every reputable doctor in the world will tell you about the lifespans of the obese.