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Is Patrick Stewart gonna get crucified for his wedding cake comments?

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 7:18 am
by Karha of Honor
If i recall he said shops should be able to pick their costumers refusing gays if they wish and did not take it back.

Am i to be crucified?

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Or will my age save me?

Re: Is Patrick Stewart gonna get crucified for his wedding cake comments?

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 5:09 pm
by Darth Wedgius
He also said:
I find myself thinking – why don’t we put an embargo on the number of places men can apply to be elected? Actually why not just ban men from running at all everywhere for 20 years? No more men in politics in city halls. Just, "thanks, it’s been great - good bye."
So he can get heat from both sides. On the plus side, the shitstorm over politics might end up more entertaining than the new show itself.

Re: Is Patrick Stewart gonna get crucified for his wedding cake comments?

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 5:13 pm
by Madner Kami
Darth Wedgius wrote: Mon Sep 17, 2018 5:09 pm He also said:
I find myself thinking – why don’t we put an embargo on the number of places men can apply to be elected? Actually why not just ban men from running at all everywhere for 20 years? No more men in politics in city halls. Just, "thanks, it’s been great - good bye."
So he can get heat from both sides. On the plus side, the shitstorm over politics might end up more entertaining than the new show itself.
Source?

Re: Is Patrick Stewart gonna get crucified for his wedding cake comments?

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 6:02 pm
by Darth Wedgius
Madner Kami wrote: Mon Sep 17, 2018 5:13 pm
Darth Wedgius wrote: Mon Sep 17, 2018 5:09 pm He also said:
I find myself thinking – why don’t we put an embargo on the number of places men can apply to be elected? Actually why not just ban men from running at all everywhere for 20 years? No more men in politics in city halls. Just, "thanks, it’s been great - good bye."
So he can get heat from both sides. On the plus side, the shitstorm over politics might end up more entertaining than the new show itself.
Source?
The source is https://www.telegraph.co.uk/theatre/Pat ... terviewed/

To be fair, he says he says, "find myself thinking"; he wasn't actually calling for sexual discrimination. But this is part of what has made my enthusiasm for a new Picard show more tepid.

Re: Is Patrick Stewart gonna get crucified for his wedding cake comments?

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 9:17 pm
by Admiral X
I don't see any difference from say refusing to serve someone working for the Trump administration. "Let private businesses choose who to do business with and let the free market sort it out" is the idea. True, in the past this might have been more laughable, but in current year I have little doubt a gay couple would be able to find a business more than willing to make them a cake for their wedding, and as added bonus points they could make themselves look better for it in the process.

Re: Is Patrick Stewart gonna get crucified for his wedding cake comments?

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 6:29 pm
by Riedquat
Neither side of the cake event impressed me. Homophobia on one hand versus being told you can't decide who you do business with as a private business on the other.

Re: Is Patrick Stewart gonna get crucified for his wedding cake comments?

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 6:52 pm
by Worffan101
Riedquat wrote: Tue Sep 18, 2018 6:29 pm Neither side of the cake event impressed me. Homophobia on one hand versus being told you can't decide who you do business with as a private business on the other.
The best part? It didn't even get decided. It was thrown out of court.

Personally I'm against the baker for the same reason I'd be against him if he denied service to black people. Being gay isn't a choice, so quite frankly it's not OK to deny someone service for it.

Now, denying someone service for wearing a particular (non-religious) clothing item, or for acting in a disruptive fashion, that's fine, especially if you have it clearly posted. So like, if the baker had a sign up saying "No Nazis", then denying service to Richard Spencer would be fine.