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Prisoners, even ones that can't vote, do count towards the population of the county they are imprisoned in for determining representation appointed. Kinda screwed up, huh?

I don't think they should be barred from voting, but that's a lousy argument right there .

now do illegal immigrants

Hardy har.

I wouldn't be opposed to having them not count toward representation.

BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2019 2:11 am I don't think they should be barred from voting, but that's a lousy argument right there .

How so?

Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2019 3:36 am

BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2019 2:11 am I don't think they should be barred from voting, but that's a lousy argument right there .

How so?

It begs the question of what makes being a part of the population significant. There was never any provision that being a part of the population guarantees your rights. Conversely there are constitutional provisions for limiting said rights for prisoners.

BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2019 3:47 am

Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2019 3:36 am

BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2019 2:11 am I don't think they should be barred from voting, but that's a lousy argument right there .

How so?

It begs the question of what makes being a part of the population significant. There was never any provision that being a part of the population guarantees your rights. Conversely there are constitutional provisions for limiting said rights for prisoners.

Meanwhile, it creates a perverse incentive to have a large population, primarily incarcerated, as this would give those in power a larger chunk of representation compared to others. Fascinating loophole.

Deledrius wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2019 5:42 am

BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2019 3:47 am

Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2019 3:36 am

BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2019 2:11 am I don't think they should be barred from voting, but that's a lousy argument right there .

How so?

It begs the question of what makes being a part of the population significant. There was never any provision that being a part of the population guarantees your rights. Conversely there are constitutional provisions for limiting said rights for prisoners.

Meanwhile, it creates a perverse incentive to have a large population, primarily incarcerated, as this would give those in power a larger chunk of representation compared to others. Fascinating loophole.

At the least, I don't think it should be black and white at all. At least have a well articulated policy outline that attempts to measure severity of quarantine and just the limited rights of government on the individual. I guess you could say I lean a tad libertarian on that last condition, but it does seemingly stem from classical liberalism espoused by the constitution.

BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2019 2:11 am I don't think they should be barred from voting, but that's a lousy argument right there .

Felons voting increases the number of voters who think PC culture is bs.

Come on, all my gangstas...