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DNA test for immigrants at the border
Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 2:15 am
by Fuzzy Necromancer
Re: DNA test for immigrants at the border
Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 5:25 am
by Admiral X
To an extent, me, too, but only because it reminds me of something California was pulling by collecting the DNA of anyone who was arrested for anything. In this case there seems to be some justification for it, as it is the entire rational behind separating children from any adults accompanying them - stopping child sex trafficking.
Re: DNA test for immigrants at the border
Posted: Thu May 09, 2019 2:53 am
by G-Man
Well, Fuzzy, you can blame Judge Dolly Gee. Her decree that Flores applies to children who are traveling with adults (basically, a child cannot be held in custody more than 20 days; previously this only applied to unaccompanied children) and the freakout over separating children from the adults with them at the border means that anyone who wants to cross the border illegally or to do human trafficking knows that if they bring a kid with them, they get into the country more easily. Bring a kid, and in 20 days the kid will be released and you with them.
It makes a good deal of sense to use DNA testing to make certain that people aren't taking someone else's child as a way to ease their entry into the country.
Re: DNA test for immigrants at the border
Posted: Thu May 09, 2019 3:57 am
by BridgeConsoleMasher
Golly gee there.
Re: DNA test for immigrants at the border
Posted: Thu May 09, 2019 7:40 am
by ProfessorDetective
G-Man wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2019 2:53 am
Well, Fuzzy, you can blame Judge Dolly Gee. Her decree that
Flores applies to children who are traveling with adults (basically, a child cannot be held in custody more than 20 days; previously this only applied to unaccompanied children) and the freakout over separating children from the adults with them at the border means that anyone who wants to cross the border illegally or to do human trafficking knows that if they bring a kid with them, they get into the country more easily. Bring a kid, and in 20 days the kid will be released and you with them.
It makes a good deal of sense to use DNA testing to make certain that people aren't taking someone else's child as a way to ease their entry into the country.
Honestly, that is something I can get behind. Most will assume it's an Orwellian people-cataloging thing (and it may very well be so underneath), but if it discourages child exploitation, it's a win.
Now if we could just streamline the process of immigrating into the USA LEGALLY, we wouldn't need these damn camps.
Re: DNA test for immigrants at the border
Posted: Thu May 09, 2019 2:34 pm
by clearspira
I have always been for compulsory DNA recording for all. Crime detection would double overnight.
Re: DNA test for immigrants at the border
Posted: Thu May 09, 2019 6:48 pm
by Admiral X
Not much in the spirit of the Fourth Amendment, or due process in general.
Re: DNA test for immigrants at the border
Posted: Thu May 09, 2019 8:17 pm
by clearspira
Admiral X wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2019 6:48 pm
Not much in the spirit of the Fourth Amendment, or due process in general.
I'm British. We are becoming a police state anyway, guess that gives me a different pov.
Re: DNA test for immigrants at the border
Posted: Thu May 09, 2019 8:47 pm
by BridgeConsoleMasher
clearspira wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2019 2:34 pm
I have always been for compulsory DNA recording for all. Crime detection would double overnight.
People that freak out about government oversight weary me out more than the threat of government oversight itself.
Well I guess just the pressure they persuade me into fearing the government. Government doesn't have much interest in me as an individual no matter how many microphones they put in my laptop.
Re: DNA test for immigrants at the border
Posted: Thu May 09, 2019 9:20 pm
by LittleRaven
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2019 8:47 pmGovernment doesn't have much interest in me as an individual no matter how many microphones they put in my laptop.
Until, of course,
they do. That's what always makes these things so difficult.