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https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/06/ ... 39226.html
Well this is pretty scary. Also, "rubber bullets" are something of a misnomer. They're basically bullets with a thin veneer of rubber and they can still seriously fuck you up.

Also, um, it seems like there's a lot of injuries. I'm told police have been stopping ambulances and arresting people in them instead of letting them get care.

America does not use her global power perfectly, but should the Chinese replace us, we will be missed.

And America turns blind eye to this because it would be bad for trade not to ignore this.

Mecha82 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 12, 2019 6:53 pm And America turns blind eye to this because it would be bad for trade not to ignore this.

We're not turning a blind eye to it. CNN has a live stream. Trump addressed it (in his typical moronic fashion) just a couple of hours ago. Both Pelosi AND McConnell have addressed on the floor of their respective legislative chambers.

We just can't really DO anything about it, because the Brits gave Hong Kong back to China. Our powers are limited.

LittleRaven wrote: ↑Wed Jun 12, 2019 6:42 pm America does not use her global power perfectly, but should the Chinese replace us, we will be missed.

Which is why men like Trump are not well liked overseas because we know you are the best of a questionable lot and he is very isolationist. He did not have the reception I think he wanted in the UK.

We could threaten trade sanctions. They wouldn't do any good, unless many more nations join in, and might not help even then. China's government makes preserving their power a priority, and were willing to do this knowing the rest of the world would be watching.

Barring that, we don't have a lot of power. Forget it. It's China's town.

LittleRaven wrote: ↑Wed Jun 12, 2019 8:08 pm

Mecha82 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 12, 2019 6:53 pm And America turns blind eye to this because it would be bad for trade not to ignore this.

We're not turning a blind eye to it. CNN has a live stream. Trump addressed it (in his typical moronic fashion) just a couple of hours ago. Both Pelosi AND McConnell have addressed on the floor of their respective legislative chambers.

We just can't really DO anything about it, because the Brits gave Hong Kong back to China. Our powers are limited.

It is not fair to say that we gave it back. Unlike many of our colonies we never strictly speaking conquered Hong Kong, it was leased to us for 99 years as part of a treaty deal. And with the British Empire dead and China now more powerful than us in every possible way, renegotiation was not an option.

Interesting isn't it, when given the choice between the Empire and Red China how many people legitimately preferred it under the former? Its like what LittleRaven above pretty much said: you may not like how things are, but that doesn't mean you'll like the next guy more.

clearspira wrote: ↑Wed Jun 12, 2019 9:24 pm It is not fair to say that we gave it back. Unlike many of our colonies we never strictly speaking conquered Hong Kong, it was leased to us for 99 years as part of a treaty deal.

Well, technically, the New Territories (over x10 larger than Hong Kong island) were leased for 99 years, while Kowloon and Hong Kong island were permanently ceded, like parts of Manchuria to Russia.

TGLS wrote: ↑Wed Jun 12, 2019 10:13 pm

clearspira wrote: ↑Wed Jun 12, 2019 9:24 pm It is not fair to say that we gave it back. Unlike many of our colonies we never strictly speaking conquered Hong Kong, it was leased to us for 99 years as part of a treaty deal.

Well, technically, the New Territories (over x10 larger than Hong Kong island) were leased for 99 years, while Kowloon and Hong Kong island were permanently ceded, like parts of Manchuria to Russia.

Russia still hold on to the Manchuria territory because 1, they don't care about PR and 2, they have made it clear that if China attempts to retake the territory by force they will nuke them.

If I remember, when the UK discussed the issue with the PRC, China was rather insistent on having the whole thing, with a Chinese representative pointedly noting that the People's Army could take it in an afternoon.