Politics of the British Isles
Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 12:19 am
Unionists no longer have majority control in the Northern Ireland Assembly. Brexit and scandal putting Ireland ahead of Lt. Commander Data's 2024 schedule for reunification?
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Re: International Elections and Politics (no US/UK)
Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 5:16 pm
Also, Nicola Sturgeon will soon file for a second referendum on Scottish Independence, potentially round Robbie Burns Day 2019.
Re: International Elections and Politics (no US/UK)
Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 7:22 am
That's UK politics 
Probably worth a topic split.
Yes, the gist of the second referendum is that Scotland should be allowed a second choice as they thought that remaining in the UK would keep them in the EU. They were told by the EU that they did not qualify for a membership if they left, and could not use the Euro as a currency as the European central bank would not be a lender of last resort.
Likewise British Sterling would not be currency option either, as the Bank of England would likewise not be a LoLR either.
If Scotland leaves the UK now, it would be outside both the UK and the EU and have to apply.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/03 ... ave-apply/
Even if they succeed. They would be ceding more independence and control to the growing European state than the the British parliment which currently they have strong representation in, while having their own devolved parliament which is currently floundering on local issues like education.
Even if the political will is now there to leave now, the situation for making a successful independent Scotland is extremely poor. If it were to be attempted, it would be much better to attempt post Brexit when the prospects if not better than now, would at least be known.
Probably worth a topic split.Yes, the gist of the second referendum is that Scotland should be allowed a second choice as they thought that remaining in the UK would keep them in the EU. They were told by the EU that they did not qualify for a membership if they left, and could not use the Euro as a currency as the European central bank would not be a lender of last resort.
Likewise British Sterling would not be currency option either, as the Bank of England would likewise not be a LoLR either.
If Scotland leaves the UK now, it would be outside both the UK and the EU and have to apply.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/03 ... ave-apply/
Even if they succeed. They would be ceding more independence and control to the growing European state than the the British parliment which currently they have strong representation in, while having their own devolved parliament which is currently floundering on local issues like education.
Even if the political will is now there to leave now, the situation for making a successful independent Scotland is extremely poor. If it were to be attempted, it would be much better to attempt post Brexit when the prospects if not better than now, would at least be known.
Re: Politics of the British Isles
Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 12:44 am
I don't think I have ever seen any government in my life time so blatantly undermine its own nation's interests (barring perhaps proof that Trump is collaborating with Putin), than the British government's handling of Brexit.
And, hell, even Trump hasn't seriously endangered the country's territorial integrity and provoked secession attempts. Yet.
And, hell, even Trump hasn't seriously endangered the country's territorial integrity and provoked secession attempts. Yet.
Re: Politics of the British Isles
Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 5:00 pm
LOL, keep 'em coming, you keep making my day.
Re: Politics of the British Isles
Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2017 1:14 am
Do you actually have anything even remotely of substance to say, or have you decided to just follow me around harassing me with vaguely insulting (if they weren't so vapid) one-liners?Dindu wrote:LOL, keep 'em coming, you keep making my day.
Re: Politics of the British Isles
Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2017 9:26 am
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Re: Politics of the British Isles
Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2017 9:42 am
Reported.
Re: Politics of the British Isles
Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 1:31 pm
I've been keeping a close eye on Northern Ireland, and am curious to see how these negotiations play out.
Re: Politics of the British Isles
Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2017 12:15 am
As a Scot, I am ashamed to be part of Brexit.
At the moment, it looks like the EU would allow speedy entry to our country were it to declare its independence. Hopefully Nicola Sturgeon will plot a course which allows us to remain part of the European Union, whether or not it takes full independence. Theresa May's pretty much forced the issue by saying Scotland wouldn't be allowed to organise a way to stay in the single market. And she could win independence for us by telling our First Minister that she cannot hold the referendum. Then the FM would call foul, hold a consulting referendum (which is what Brexit was) and were it to win, she'd have the same mandate that the PM currently has to leave the EU.
At the moment, it looks like the EU would allow speedy entry to our country were it to declare its independence. Hopefully Nicola Sturgeon will plot a course which allows us to remain part of the European Union, whether or not it takes full independence. Theresa May's pretty much forced the issue by saying Scotland wouldn't be allowed to organise a way to stay in the single market. And she could win independence for us by telling our First Minister that she cannot hold the referendum. Then the FM would call foul, hold a consulting referendum (which is what Brexit was) and were it to win, she'd have the same mandate that the PM currently has to leave the EU.