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Alicia Silverstone calls for environmental externalities from dairy to be accounted for

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:27 pm
by BridgeConsoleMasher
https://www.buzzfeed.com/marissamuller/alicia-silverstone-dragged-starbucks-for-not-being-eco

Also!I'm always frustrated by extra charges for non-dairy milk. Y should we be penalized 4 making the eco-choice? It would be amazing for
@Starbucks
to lead the way &consider enviro externalities associated w the dairy industry by having dairy cost + or at least = plantmilk fees.

Re: Alicia Silverstone calls for environmental externalities from dairy to be accounted for

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:48 pm
by Robovski
It's not milk if it comes from plants.

Re: Alicia Silverstone calls for environmental externalities from dairy to be accounted for

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:44 pm
by BridgeConsoleMasher
Robovski wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:48 pm It's not milk if it comes from plants.
The word "milk" has been used to refer to "milk-like plant juices" since 1200 AD.

Re: Alicia Silverstone calls for environmental externalities from dairy to be accounted for

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:59 pm
by Robovski
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:44 pm
Robovski wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:48 pm It's not milk if it comes from plants.
The word "milk" has been used to refer to "milk-like plant juices" since 1200 AD.
Milk of poppy predates 1200 AD. We probably should not make an exception for opiates considering the litigious state of the US and the opioid crisis.Dog milk however should be sold as milk.

Re: Alicia Silverstone calls for environmental externalities from dairy to be accounted for

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:13 pm
by BridgeConsoleMasher
Robovski wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:59 pm
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:44 pm
Robovski wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:48 pm It's not milk if it comes from plants.
The word "milk" has been used to refer to "milk-like plant juices" since 1200 AD.
Milk of poppy predates 1200 AD. We probably should not make an exception for opiates considering the litigious state of the US and the opioid crisis.
1200 AD it is then.

Re: Alicia Silverstone calls for environmental externalities from dairy to be accounted for

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:05 pm
by Antiboyscout
Freakin city slickers, they have no idea that most animal feed is not straight up corn or soybeans but plant byproducts that are inedible to humans.

In california i know they use almond hull and pistachio hull

Re: Alicia Silverstone calls for environmental externalities from dairy to be accounted for

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 11:00 pm
by TGLS
Well, to be fair, livestock produces methane (ignore non-CO2 GHG at your own peril), and if there wasn't huge demand for animal feed, biodiesel might be in a healthier position (cheaper feedstock, cheaper diesel). Not that I'd argue for vegan diets to quell Global Warming; soy milk tastes like crap and I enjoy meat.

Re: Alicia Silverstone calls for environmental externalities from dairy to be accounted for

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 11:37 pm
by AlucardNoir
In other news wannabe "journalist" desperate for story teams up with washed-up actress in a desperate attempt to get people to notice them.

Re: Alicia Silverstone calls for environmental externalities from dairy to be accounted for

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2019 12:11 am
by Antiboyscout
TGLS wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2019 11:00 pm Well, to be fair, livestock produces methane (ignore non-CO2 GHG at your own peril), and if there wasn't huge demand for animal feed, biodiesel might be in a healthier position (cheaper feedstock, cheaper diesel). Not that I'd argue for vegan diets to quell Global Warming; soy milk tastes like crap and I enjoy meat.
Almond hull does not contain significant amounts of oil. The current bottleneck for bio-diesel is the
crude glycerin byproduct.

I prefer pork anyway. Pigs can be fed food scraps and thus could be used to reduce human food waste. Pigs also produce much less methane (about as much as a human)

Re: Alicia Silverstone calls for environmental externalities from dairy to be accounted for

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2019 12:20 am
by BridgeConsoleMasher
Antiboyscout wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:05 pm Freakin city slickers, they have no idea that most animal feed is not straight up corn or soybeans but plant byproducts that are inedible to humans.

In california i know they use almond hull and pistachio hull


Well let me remind you that it does not say RSVP on the statue of liberty.