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Call the cops: Shots fired when Martin Scorsese says Marvel isn't Cinema

Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 8:23 pm
by BridgeConsoleMasher
https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/martin-scorsese-marvel-criticism-james-gunn

Does anybody here take personal issue with people saying this kind of stuff. Happened a little while ago with Ethan Hawke to a similar degree.

Re: Call the cops: Shots fired when Martin Scorsese says Marvel isn't Cinema

Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 8:39 pm
by Mecha82
We also had Steven Spielberg saying that superhero movies will go the way of westerns that Kevin Feige took issue with. At end of day people in film industry (no matter how respected they might be) can say what they want but does it matter when MCU is doing so well and isn't going any were. Also do we fans allow it bother us or do we just brush it side.

Re: Call the cops: Shots fired when Martin Scorsese says Marvel isn't Cinema

Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 9:36 pm
by Draco Dracul
I honestly take less issue with it from Scorsese than I do from most of the New Hollywood directors because Scorsese never sold out. So at least unlike Spielberg it doesn't reek of hypocrisy.

Re: Call the cops: Shots fired when Martin Scorsese says Marvel isn't Cinema

Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 9:50 pm
by BridgeConsoleMasher
Damn. Sick burn, Draco.

Re: Call the cops: Shots fired when Martin Scorsese says Marvel isn't Cinema

Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 11:36 pm
by TGLS
Mecha82 wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2019 8:39 pm We also had Steven Spielberg saying that superhero movies will go the way of westerns that Kevin Feige took issue with.
So fading away in the wake of moodier foreign perspectives on the genre and shifting norms, but continuing to be a genre many years later? Plausible.

Re: Call the cops: Shots fired when Martin Scorsese says Marvel isn't Cinema

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 4:34 am
by BridgeConsoleMasher
Alright, for matters of genuine artifact, I suppose that the prewritten characters and the promise of action epic in each and every film is principally bringing people into theaters. You can say that for them more than you can say that for whoever is writing, directing, or acting in the movie.

Though Marvel is only distinct from DC movies in their mounting status of having not yet done a character study film about artistically the most interesting presence of a villain through the lens of Scorsese's ouvre.

Re: Call the cops: Shots fired when Martin Scorsese says Marvel isn't Cinema

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 11:01 am
by Mecha82
TGLS wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2019 11:36 pm
Mecha82 wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2019 8:39 pm We also had Steven Spielberg saying that superhero movies will go the way of westerns that Kevin Feige took issue with.
So fading away in the wake of moodier foreign perspectives on the genre and shifting norms, but continuing to be a genre many years later? Plausible.
There has always been shift when it comes to movies. It's just that with superhero movies we are living period were those are going so strong that it's difficult to say when next dry period comes and there won't be as many of those made as today. But modern superhero movies do have advantage over many other genres in sense that you can make those to be part of other genres as well. For example CA: Winter Soldier was both superhero movie and spy movie. That's something that genres like westerns haven't had.

Re: Call the cops: Shots fired when Martin Scorsese says Marvel isn't Cinema

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 12:55 pm
by Yukaphile
Superhero movies may be the best game in town right now. At least they build off previous material and that shows respect for the fans. It's an oasis in a sea of mediocrity.

Re: Call the cops: Shots fired when Martin Scorsese says Marvel isn't Cinema

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 2:05 pm
by Admiral X
I actually kind of agree with him, but it isn't just Marvel movies - it's the big action blockbusters in general.

Re: Call the cops: Shots fired when Martin Scorsese says Marvel isn't Cinema

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 2:43 pm
by ChrisTheLovableJerk
Keep in mind that this guy likes Exorcist 2: The Heretic. And for context, the writer of the original Exorcist laughed his ass off when he saw it and decided to make his own sequel (the vastly superior Exorcist 3), the director of the original only watched the first half of it and said it was as bad as seeing someone he loved get run over, and Linda Blair said the director rewrote the script so many times that once she realized how bad the movie would be, she couldn't back out of it. Exorcist 2 is often considered to be the first example of a 'worse sequel ever'.

But Scorsese thinks it's a brilliant, criminally underrated movie. Dude has odd opinions.