An anti-DeSantis ad that reveals the Left's underlying psychology in the funniest way possible.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhqPrEO9xFU&t=115s
Poiltical Ad Appeals to Left's Absolute Terror of Not Being Told How to Live
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Poiltical Ad Appeals to Left's Absolute Terror of Not Being Told How to Live
A managed democracy is a wonderful thing... for the managers... and its greatest strength is a 'free press' when 'free' is defined as 'responsible' and the managers define what is 'irresponsible'.”
― Robert A. Heinlein, The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress
― Robert A. Heinlein, The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress
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Re: Poiltical Ad Appeals to Left's Absolute Terror of Not Being Told How to Live
Ah yes, caring if other people live or die. I can see why someone on the right would find the idea absurd and humorous.
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Re: Poiltical Ad Appeals to Left's Absolute Terror of Not Being Told How to Live
Indeed conservativism and fascism, which is just what happens when conservatives feel like they are losing power, are fundamentally on the idea that only certain people deserve to live.hammerofglass wrote: ↑Fri Oct 01, 2021 11:08 am Ah yes, caring if other people live or die. I can see why someone on the right would find the idea absurd and humorous.
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Re: Poiltical Ad Appeals to Left's Absolute Terror of Not Being Told How to Live
Sterilization of the mentally handicapped, the epileptics, and the deformed was a specifically socialist policy, imposed by socialist governments.
And remember, 'Nazi' is short for the German for "National Socialist".
Really, the problem is Authoritarianism, which transcends specific political divisions. Especially absurdly simplistic and poorly-defined ones like "Left vs. Right" or "conservative vs. liberal".
And remember, 'Nazi' is short for the German for "National Socialist".
Really, the problem is Authoritarianism, which transcends specific political divisions. Especially absurdly simplistic and poorly-defined ones like "Left vs. Right" or "conservative vs. liberal".
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Re: Poiltical Ad Appeals to Left's Absolute Terror of Not Being Told How to Live
The first is an outright lie. The second is a trivial truth that conveniently ignores the name was a lie for PR ("first they came for the Socialists..."). The actions and motives of the Third Reich are extensively documented by themselves and contemporary sources, nobody who had actually researched it at all could have gotten it this wrong. Maybe go read a book instead of mindlessly repeating what you were told to believe by people who want you confidently ignorant.Frustration wrote: ↑Fri Oct 01, 2021 6:54 pm Sterilization of the mentally handicapped, the epileptics, and the deformed was a specifically socialist policy, imposed by socialist governments.
And remember, 'Nazi' is short for the German for "National Socialist".
Really, the problem is Authoritarianism, which transcends specific political divisions. Especially absurdly simplistic and poorly-defined ones like "Left vs. Right" or "conservative vs. liberal".
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Re: Poiltical Ad Appeals to Left's Absolute Terror of Not Being Told How to Live
I can assure you that it's not a lie. As to whether it's wrong:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15461971/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics
Support for the idea of eugenics has popped up in many different political groupings, but it was instituted as policy in socialist countries, ones that are usually identified as 'Leftist'.
As for the Nazis, you're confusing Socialism (big S) with socialism (little s). The Nazis were most definitely socialists.
History is complicated, and usually not comforting.
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Re: Poiltical Ad Appeals to Left's Absolute Terror of Not Being Told How to Live
I suppose that makes the United States, who sterilized 60 thousand people from 1907 until the 1970s, one of the farthest left and most socialist nations on earth, while the Soviet Union, who purged all their eugenicists by 1931, one of the farthest right and least socialist.Frustration wrote: ↑Fri Oct 01, 2021 7:40 pm Support for the idea of eugenics has popped up in many different political groupings, but it was instituted as policy in socialist countries, ones that are usually identified as 'Leftist'.
Honestly the first fragment of the sentence is more accurate. You see peculiarities in the early 20th century, like WEB Du Bois arguing with openly racist eugenicists while still accepting the basic principle.
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Re: Poiltical Ad Appeals to Left's Absolute Terror of Not Being Told How to Live
Yes Eugenics is a worldwide shame. That is also irrelevant to the absurd claim that it is specifically leftist or that Nazis and fascist are somehow Socialist.Frustration wrote: ↑Fri Oct 01, 2021 7:40 pmI can assure you that it's not a lie. As to whether it's wrong:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15461971/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics
Support for the idea of eugenics has popped up in many different political groupings, but it was instituted as policy in socialist countries, ones that are usually identified as 'Leftist'.
As for the Nazis, you're confusing Socialism (big S) with socialism (little s). The Nazis were most definitely socialists.
https://www.britannica.com/story/were-t ... socialists
https://www.snopes.com/news/2017/09/05/ ... ocialists/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism#Id ... _programme (I normally wouldn't use wikipedia but you already did and I'm at work so screw it)
https://www.nybooks.com/articles/1995/06/22/ur-fascism/
Or, you know, Mein Kampf. Or anything else the actual Nazis wrote about their beliefs. It's not like their motives were a secret, they thought they were the good guys after all.
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Re: Poiltical Ad Appeals to Left's Absolute Terror of Not Being Told How to Live
Two words: Scandinavian eugenics.
That is all.
That is all.
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The Soviet Union purged an awful lot of their biologists, and essentially all of their geneticists, because they had accurate knowledge which contradicted party doctrine.TGLS wrote: ↑Fri Oct 01, 2021 8:19 pmI suppose that makes the United States, who sterilized 60 thousand people from 1907 until the 1970s, one of the farthest left and most socialist nations on earth, while the Soviet Union, who purged all their eugenicists by 1931, one of the farthest right and least socialist.Frustration wrote: ↑Fri Oct 01, 2021 7:40 pm Support for the idea of eugenics has popped up in many different political groupings, but it was instituted as policy in socialist countries, ones that are usually identified as 'Leftist'.
As for the US, look at =who= advocated and mandated eugenic practices. Conservatives were against it - particularly religious ones.
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