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https://reason.com/2021/10/06/ag-merric ... errorists/

"On Monday, Garland sent a memo to the federal law enforcement agency directing it to coordinate with the nation's 14,000 school districts. This action comes after the Biden administration received a plea from the National School Boards Association (NSBA) to protect schools from the "imminent threat" of parents sending "threatening letters and cyberbullying" school officials. The association considers such activities to be akin to "domestic terrorism."

"As these acts of malice, violence, and threats against public school officials have increased, the classification of these heinous actions could be the equivalent to a form of domestic terrorism and hate crimes," wrote the NSBA.

Has some great number of teachers, principals, and district leaders come under violent attack? Of course not. What both the Justice Department and the concerned school boards are really talking about it is the increased number of recent community meetings that have featured angry feedback from parents. These parents are sick of COVID-19 mitigation efforts that have relegated actual students to afterthought status within the education department: the farce of virtual learning, mandatory closure when asymptomatic cases are detected, ceaseless masking. Young people who have the least to fear from the pandemic—the severe disease and death rate for the under-18 crowd is extremely low—have been forced to make tremendous educational and social sacrifices to bend the curve of COVID-19. Families are fed up with a public education system that puts the needs of students last, and they are speaking up about it."

The parents groups respond to the NSBA crying to the Biden administration here:

https://defendinged.org/press-releases/ ... OLLiLHhPWE

"NSBA cites a tiny number of minor incidents in order to insinuate that parents who are criticizing and
protesting the decisions of school boards are engaging in, or may be engaging in, “domestic terrorism
and hate crimes.” NSBA even invokes the PATRIOT Act. The association of legitimate protest with
terrorism and violence reveals both your contempt for parents and your unwillingness to understand
and hear the sincere cries of parents on behalf of their children. To equate parents with terrorists
dishonors the thousands of victims of actual terrorism around the world. Have you no shame?

Your letter to President Biden is a thinly veiled threat, intended to intimidate into silence and
submission the very constituents that your members ostensibly represent."


This action by Bidn's Justice Department is an attack on our values as a representative republic by an insulated, intellectually incestuous technocratic elite who cannot abide dissent.

Parents have never cared about teachers, viewing schools as a babysitting service. Now the teachers are returning the favor.

Burn, burn, burn!

That's an odd way to say "FBI investigates parents who sent death threats to teachers because people above said teachers put a mask mandate in place, thereby saving students lives."

Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: ↑Sat Oct 09, 2021 3:13 am That's an odd way to say "FBI investigates parents who sent death threats to teachers because people above said teachers put a mask mandate in place, thereby saving students lives."

Pretty much. This wouldn't surprise me as a headline from a conservative news site.

Mickey do better than making click bait headlines.

Double points if said parents are threatening to kill the teachers for teaching about racism or insisting on masks.

CharlesPhipps wrote: ↑Sat Oct 09, 2021 5:11 am Double points if said parents are threatening to kill the teachers for teaching about racism or insisting on masks.

Ahh yes. Critical Race Theory. The big boogey man for the conservatives

Pardon me while I sit on the fence a moment. But where is the line?
Where is the separation of angry parent against an uncaring school system and a genuine terroristic threat?
Now I have been out of school longer than I was in school now. But when I was in I was sent to a few schools that still insisted they were permitted corporal punishment of students. My father was quite keen on if I was hit by one of these teachers he would come kick that teacher's ass. This was a public school not private I might add. Would my father be jailed now? Would the child in question be taken away?
Schools are far from perfect. I want to know the line, because there are plenty of districts that will abuse a system.

Nealithi wrote: ↑Sat Oct 09, 2021 11:14 am Pardon me while I sit on the fence a moment. But where is the line?
Where is the separation of angry parent against an uncaring school system and a genuine terroristic threat?
Now I have been out of school longer than I was in school now. But when I was in I was sent to a few schools that still insisted they were permitted corporal punishment of students. My father was quite keen on if I was hit by one of these teachers he would come kick that teacher's ass. This was a public school not private I might add. Would my father be jailed now? Would the child in question be taken away?
Schools are far from perfect. I want to know the line, because there are plenty of districts that will abuse a system.

I dunno, this doesn't seem like a particularly nuanced issue. The line is usually, "the parent is threatening to kill or otherwise inflict physical violence an educator." My inclination is that if you are going to do the latter then maybe they shouldn't put you in said school or withdraw you.

Because in this era of shootings and terrorism, it's not something to really shrug off these days.

Note: My mother was a teacher.

CharlesPhipps wrote: ↑Sat Oct 09, 2021 12:29 pm

Nealithi wrote: ↑Sat Oct 09, 2021 11:14 am Pardon me while I sit on the fence a moment. But where is the line?
Where is the separation of angry parent against an uncaring school system and a genuine terroristic threat?
Now I have been out of school longer than I was in school now. But when I was in I was sent to a few schools that still insisted they were permitted corporal punishment of students. My father was quite keen on if I was hit by one of these teachers he would come kick that teacher's ass. This was a public school not private I might add. Would my father be jailed now? Would the child in question be taken away?
Schools are far from perfect. I want to know the line, because there are plenty of districts that will abuse a system.

I dunno, this doesn't seem like a particularly nuanced issue. The line is usually, "the parent is threatening to kill or otherwise inflict physical violence an educator." My inclination is that if you are going to do the latter then maybe they shouldn't put you in said school or withdraw you.

Because in this era of shootings and terrorism, it's not something to really shrug off these days.

Note: My mother was a teacher.

I am by no means saying to shrug things off. But I worry about abuse in the opposite direction.
Schools with abusive teachers have threatened parents in the past. And only changed their tune when they set up a phone to stream his school day including the abuse and released it on social media. Then suddenly they 'had no idea'. From same vice principal that threatened the parents a few days before.

And the example I gave. I do not know if the California or Florida public schools still include corporal punishment. Like I said it was decades ago. As to go to a different school. Many of those schools were where we could live as my father was made to move due to being in the Navy at the time.

To your point of your mother was a teacher. Good for her. I hope she has more good stories of her time educating than bad ones.

Nealithi wrote: ↑Sat Oct 09, 2021 11:14 am Pardon me while I sit on the fence a moment. But where is the line?
Where is the separation of angry parent against an uncaring school system and a genuine terroristic threat?

Well that's why you have an investigation. By federal law, using interstate communication (i.e. the Internet) to issue death threats is a crime. An example I read about from seven years ago had it happen over and over again and they were pretty detailed, not just "Die Bitch!" or anything like that. How many people who are just mad say things like "If I only knew then what I know now . . . I would have smothered your ass with a pillow. Dumped your body in the back seat. Dropped you off in Toad Creek and made it look like a rape and murder."